# Andor (starting September 21, 2022)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\
**Created:** [September 18, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787 "2022-09-18T23:19:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/1 "2022-09-18T23:19:58Z")

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12 total episodes.  
Once it is one episode per week, I personally think no spoilers until the next day (24 hours?), but I’ll go with the majority.  
I might be the only one, but I am quite interested in Mon Mothma, and how she kept her activities secret (or how close he gets to being caught)

Brian

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/2 "2022-09-18T23:35:24Z")

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**Andor (first 3 episodes start September 31)**

“Heard of the Millennium Falcon? It’s the ship that made the September Run in more than 30 days!”

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/3 "2022-09-18T23:44:35Z")

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Oops, asked for a correction.  
Brian

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/4 "2022-09-18T23:52:39Z")

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Done.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/5 "2022-09-19T15:35:03Z")

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Thanks,  
“Special Look” – basically a greatest hits with just a few new scenes:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SrFGN5x4M6A/maxresdefault.jpg "Special Look | Andor | Disney+") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrFGN5x4M6A)

Brian

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/6 "2022-09-22T02:01:29Z")

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Watched the first episode – ArsTechnica says they were glad 3 episodes were released because it doesn’t really get going until episode 3. I presume the Kenari flashbacks will explain what happened to his sister – that part was a bit slow for me but otherwise I was OK with it.  
Plan to watch episodes 2 and possibly 3 Friday.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/7 "2022-09-22T10:14:13Z")

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Saw all three, and I liked them a lot. Deliberately paced, but it pays off.  
Three things:

1. It’s nice to see the causes of the Rebellion at the grassroot levels. Up until now it’s all been armies and senators, at least in live action movies and shows.

2. It probably won’t happen, but while I liked most of what I saw, I hope we never see any of these places or characters (besides Cassian and Stellen Skarsgaard) again. Let it be a self-contained story. I want the main plot to move forward, not look back.

3. Anvil Tower Guy has it all figured out.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/8 "2022-09-22T11:42:15Z")

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I liked it. The slower pace made you really feel Andor’s tension of needing to leave. I am still not sure what happened exactly on his home planet. What I had expected is it would be this untouched planet that the Empire came and strip mined to oblivion but they talked of an accident so I thought, “oh, the tribe attack will cause an accident” but it then looked like the accident already happened. The final nail in my confusion was it wasn’t even the Empire at all but the Republic unless Maarna was mistaken. So I guess it’s just that he was separated but has reason to believe his sister also made it off and he’s looking for her.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/9 "2022-09-22T12:00:31Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> What I had expected is it would be this untouched planet that the Empire came and strip mined to oblivion but they talked of an accident so I thought, “oh, the tribe attack will cause an accident” but it then looked like the accident already happened. The final nail in my confusion was it wasn’t even the Empire at all but the Republic unless Maarna was mistaken.

My guess is that it was once a populated world, but some sort of mining or industrial accident released a gas into the atmosphere that killed all of the adults - a gas that was still present, based on the masks the crashed ship’s crew were wearing, and their yellow skin when they died. For some reason, a few children survived and created their own little society.

As for when it happened - based on the characters’ ages, it probably occurred during the Clone Wars, before the Empire. I read somewhere that the crashed ship had Separatist markings, although I can’t verify that.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/10 "2022-09-22T17:33:01Z")

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They have already given Cassian Andor a more compelling backstory than what was given to Han Solo and Chewbacca. I’m enjoying the story so far.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/11 "2022-09-22T18:33:56Z")

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It was a great call to release this first three episodes together, they are really a standalone prologue. Probably should have been one long episode. This is very good so far.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/12 "2022-09-22T18:47:37Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> The final nail in my confusion was it wasn’t even the Empire at all but the Republic unless Maarna was mistaken.

Indeed.

One piece of biographical lore is that Andor started out not against the Empire, but against the late Republic. He actually joined up with Count Dooku’s Confederacy of Independent Systems during the pre-Imperial Separatist Crisis.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/13 "2022-09-23T02:58:01Z")

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Why was I reminded of this 40-year-old Disney movie robot?

[Old Bob](https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/B.O.B.)

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/14 "2022-09-23T13:12:56Z")

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Yikes! That’s quite a trip down memory lane. Hans Reinhart and Maximilian - that’s a pairing of names that can’t possibly not be evil.

There’s definitely something off about B2EMO right? He has droid dementia or something. Plus his connection to Cassian and fear of losing him is being expressed oddly.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/15 "2022-09-24T00:56:29Z")

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Good storytelling.

B2EMO stuttering seems to me to be an homage to the robot Twiki from Buck Rogers in the 25th century that Mel Blanc voiced.

When B2EMO came on-screen I said to my wife, “Now _anybody_ can make one of those. When Star Wars came out R2D2 only beeped and there was a guy inside!”

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/16 "2022-09-24T01:12:04Z")

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Loved that movie and those robots (and Maximillian too even though he was evil).

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/17 "2022-09-24T01:33:00Z")

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Is this the first time anyone has said “shit” in Star Wars?

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/18 "2022-09-24T08:50:26Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> They have already given Cassian Andor a more compelling backstory than what was given to Han Solo and Chewbacca. I’m enjoying the story so far.

I feel like Andor and The Mandalorean were what the stories about Han Solo and Boba Fett were supposed to be.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/19 "2022-09-24T10:58:43Z")

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> [@Drum\_God](#):
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> They have already given Cassian Andor a more compelling backstory than what was given to Han Solo and Chewbacca. I’m enjoying the story so far.

Which stinks since in Georges background notes, Han was a former Imperial officer cashiered after refusing to transport a group of Wookie slaves.

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2022, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/20 "2022-09-24T11:17:20Z")

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It was awesome.

Just how old is Cassian supposed to be? Its 5 BBY. He is a boy in the flashbacks. The Clone Wars ended in 19 BBY and lasted three years, so 22BBY is when Geonosis happened, and the Jedi and the Republic got their convenient and totally non-suspicious _instant Army and Navy._.  
Diego Luna was 37 during the making of R1, which ended at best a few days before ANH starts. Even if the “adoption” scene takes place during the literal first year, that means the kid is at best 15.  
He doesn’t look it.

Unless the Republic had a Navy beforehand?

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