# Andor (starting September 21, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [September 18, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787 "2022-09-18T23:19:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/362 "2022-12-01T18:59:42Z")
Yeah, this would have been a great place for Star Wars’ first f-bomb. Too bad Disney chickened out, but also not really surprising. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/363 "2022-12-01T20:09:55Z")
_Puts on nerd hat_ But would they even have the same curse word in a galaxy far far away? ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/364 "2022-12-01T20:10:18Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Yeah, this would have been a great place for Star Wars’ first f-bomb. To be fair, we don’t know what the Jawas were really saying. Or R2D2, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/365 "2022-12-01T20:11:52Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > _Puts on nerd hat_ But would they even have the same curse word in a galaxy far far away? Well, they have have words like “the” and “Empire”, so I don’t see why not. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/366 "2022-12-01T20:42:58Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > _Puts on nerd hat_ But would they even have the same curse word in a galaxy far far away? It wouldn’t literally be the word “fuck,” because the characters aren’t actually speaking English, they’re speaking some space language that’s rendered as English for Earth audiences. But they’d definitely have curse words, and they’d have a curse word that’s roughly equivalent in strength and social acceptance to “fuck,” even if the word they used doesn’t literally translate to “sexual intercourse.” But, also, sexual and scatological terms being used as curses is, I think, kind of universal to real human societies, so it seems likely that they’d be using similar basis for insults in Star Wars. So, yeah, Star Wars fucks. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/367 "2022-12-01T21:11:19Z")
> [@TwoCarrotSnowman](#): > > Or R2D2, for that matter. Little known fact: R2D2 speaks as well as C3P0 does, but every word is so foul that the Galactic censors bleep every single one. /not really ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/368 "2022-12-02T03:07:08Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > 2024 NOOOOOOOOOOOO ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/369 "2022-12-02T03:08:54Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Little known fact: R2D2 speaks as well as C3P0 does, but every word is so foul that the Galactic censors bleep every single one. > > /not really That’s literally Chopper from the _Rebels_ cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/370 "2022-12-02T16:22:31Z")
Hey it’s canon that R2 swears. C3P0 told him to watch his language. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/371 "2022-12-02T17:43:24Z")
I’m slightly surprised that there haven’t been more aliens, but there weren’t many in Rogue One either. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/372 "2022-12-02T19:30:44Z")
Canonically, it’s a Human Empire that just tolerates the non-humans in its midst. True of the Republic before, and the various incarnations of both going deeply back into millennia of history. Also, makeup and sfx budgets have to be kept in check. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/373 "2022-12-03T08:54:35Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Hey it’s canon that R2 swears. C3P0 told him to watch his language. Not just there. As [this](https://us.knews.media/culture/its-now-star-wars-canon-that-r2-d2-is-a-foul-mouthed-little-droid/) article explains: “ In the original script for “A New Hope,” which was [revealed on Twitter](https://twitter.com/TheWookieeRoars/status/700493578036838400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E700493578036838400%7Ctwgr%5E41fb652f994f34ab0ab10ec0bd3a38b73b9e0c78%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2016%2F02%2F18%2Fentertainment%2Fpeter-mayhew-star-wars-script-feat%2Findex.html) in 2016 by original Chewbacca actor, the late Peter Mayhew, R2-D2 spoke in “a flurry of electronic swearing,” which is pretty great.” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/374 "2022-12-09T18:06:51Z")
Someone cut together a montage to go with Nemik’s Rebel manifesto: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/D9zYeFOrlzg/maxresdefault.jpg "(Andor) Nemik's Manifesto | Tribute") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9zYeFOrlzg) ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/375 "2022-12-10T04:50:48Z")
When he ends the manifesto with “Try,” I can not have been the only person to immediately talk back to the screen with, “Do. Or do not. There is no try.” Please tell me I’m not the only one, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/376 "2022-12-10T09:47:25Z")
> [@zbuzz](#): > > Please tell me I’m not the only one, anyway. No, you aren’t. > **[Do or Do Not, But There Is Also Try](https://gizmodo.com/andor-nemik-manifesto-yoda-star-wars-do-or-do-not-1849849017)** > > Andor's season finale evoked the nascent Rebellion manifesto of Nemik to fire a shot off at Yoda's famous mantra–but the two philosophies have plenty in common. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/377 "2022-12-10T17:09:54Z")
A little fanwank, perhaps-but we’re told in ROTJ that Death Star 1 is behind schedule. Andor’s prison break shuts that place down for months. Could one have contributed to the other? And I love the idea that the Death Star and Andor are so interwoven. They both created and destroyed each other. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/378 "2022-12-10T18:58:27Z")
That was the second death star in ROTJ; during Andor they were building the first. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/379 "2022-12-10T19:03:48Z")
I think he meant to say ROTS, the third prequel. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/380 "2022-12-10T22:16:17Z")
No, I meant ROTJ. I had the timeline all messed up in my enthusiasm. 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2023, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/381 "2023-01-04T13:57:31Z")
Anyone else happen to catch the Nicholas Britell interview on CBS Sunday Morning? Mr. Britell composed the music for the series. He pointed out that the introduction music is different at the beginning of each episode, as he tried to capture the mood or theme of each episode. Here’s the interview: [Nicholas Britell: Knowing the score - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwSyGRF1WE) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=20)