# Andor (starting September 21, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [September 18, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787 "2022-09-18T23:19:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/82 "2022-10-12T20:59:46Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > why did they have to use the hoary trope the brother always dies first And second, which also answers your next question. It was a blink and you miss it death, but it was the first. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/83 "2022-10-12T22:10:51Z")
The _one_ time physics works in Star Wars, and it kills that poor kid. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/84 "2022-10-13T05:09:26Z")
I always thought he was a little squishy. Too soon? ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/85 "2022-10-13T06:45:29Z")
I had the same question about one of the characters. I’ll have to rewatch. What’s going to happen to Cinta? She was left behind, I assume to help clear the path pretending to be an officer. I wonder if Vel’s reluctance to launch the mission was because she didnt want to leave her behind? If so, Cinta convincing her to follow the plan is very poignant. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/86 "2022-10-13T07:19:37Z")
Ah, from reading a recap online, I see my blurred out question about what happens to Cinta was in fact answered, and I somehow missed it. In my defence, I was tired when I watched it last night. I missed the death of Gorn as well. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/87 "2022-10-13T07:28:25Z")
Ah. I see what I missed at was at the 33:50 mark. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/88 "2022-10-13T10:46:42Z")
It wasn’t clear to me what happened to Gorn or Cinta so anyone please feel free to enlighten me. I enjoyed the episode but I think the buildup just barely crossed the line from tense to C’mon already but then the fireworks started. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/89 "2022-10-13T10:50:53Z")
I thought the offer of the 50:50 split was going to be a test of Andor and not a real scam. Andor was quick to react though, I guess there is still a chance that it was a test (and one that he passed) but perhaps that level of reaction was not anticipated. That has neatly tied Andor to the rebellion though. 40 million was a big test of where his motivation actually lies. To me, I think he looked properly surprised that he did what he did and even though he is taking his payment and scarpering it is a neat way of pulling him further into the rebellion, he is mercenary up to a point. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/90 "2022-10-13T11:11:19Z")
He wouldn’t be the first scoundrel we’ve seen walk away with payment after helping the Rebellion, only to have a change of heart later on. ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/91 "2022-10-13T11:18:57Z")
Cinta stayed behind, wearing Imperial uniform. The bit I missed (and read in a recap somewhere) was that she was seen at the end mixed in with the group of locals, presumably having got out of the base. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/92 "2022-10-13T11:21:59Z")
Awesome episode. As someone said elsewhere on the Net. The Empire might dress like the Nazi’s, but its at its heart something a lot worse. The British Empire. The Imperials all looked and acted liked Empire era British officers. Complete with the one officer who has “gone native”. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/93 "2022-10-13T13:50:50Z")
Since we’re not really sure about where Cinta originated from, just that her family was killed by stormtroopers, I kind of assumed she was possibly a local that joined the small mission and is now blending back in with her people. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/94 "2022-10-13T14:20:44Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That has neatly tied Andor to the rebellion though. 40 million was a big test of where his motivation actually lies. Of course, my thought was, “If I’m going to screw over the Rebellion, why do I need you? I could take all 80 million!” The other guy needed Andor as a pilot, Andor didn’t need him. I’d make a bad rebel. But a _great_ thief. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/95 "2022-10-13T14:43:52Z")
One moment I noticed is that when the Colonel drew his gun on Nemik, what he said was “Let the boy go!”. The Empire may be evil, and its soldiers may be willing participants in its evil acts, but some - maybe most - of them still think of themselves as being good people, and are capable of acting selflessly, even heroically. I liked that. Also, how weird is it that both Star Wars and Lord of the Rings shows had TV episodes called “The Eye” broadcast within a few days of each other? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/96 "2022-10-13T15:00:17Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > The Empire may be evil, and its soldiers may be willing participants in its evil acts, but some - maybe most - of them still think of themselves as being good people, and are capable of acting selflessly, even heroically. I liked that. As I said somewhere above, I think giving the bad guys an actual human face, rather than having them be literal faceless mooks to be easily hated and killed without any residual moral qualms, is one of the high points of this show. Even bad guys have families, and they may even care about them—which doesn’t make them good guys in any way, but gives them more depth than a papercut. On a different note, I don’t quite understand why Cassian shot Skeen. Was it just on impulse? Couldn’t he just have said no? Maybe tell Vel about the betrayal? Take him at gunpoint, and leave him on the planet? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/97 "2022-10-13T15:05:48Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > On a different note, I don’t quite understand why Cassian shot Skeen. Was it just on impulse? Couldn’t he just have said no? Maybe tell Vel about the betrayal? Take him at gunpoint, and leave him on the planet? No, that was the only way to reject that offer. Nothing else would have worked, Skeen would have denied it and Vel would have believed him over Andor, and they both knew that. Skeen only made the offer because he was sure Andor would take it. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/98 "2022-10-13T15:10:56Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > No, that was the only way to reject that offer. Nothing else would have worked, Skeen would have denied it and Vel would have believed him over Andor, and they both knew that. Skeen only made the offer because he was sure Andor would take it. What would Skeen have done if Andor had just said ‘no, I’m good, thanks, let’s just forget you ever said anything’? Claimed that he had tried to make off with the credits? To what end? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/99 "2022-10-13T15:13:30Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > What would Skeen have done if Andor had just said ‘no, I’m good, thanks, let’s just forget you ever said anything’? Claimed that he had tried to make off with the credits? To what end? Kill him, obviously. There is no going back to normal after that. He gave himself away. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/100 "2022-10-13T15:13:58Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > What would Skeen have done if Andor had just said ‘no, I’m good, thanks, let’s just forget you ever said anything’? Claimed that he had tried to make off with the credits? To what end? Skeen would have killed him - it was his only option. Both of them knew that when he made the offer. That’s why Andor shot him. It was very similar to the situation he found himself in with the cops in the first episode. Andor looked two steps ahead and realized that the only way for him to survive was to kill a man, so he did. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/101 "2022-10-13T15:19:41Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Kill him, obviously. There is no going back to normal after that. He gave himself away. Why? After all, as you said, Vel would never have believed Andor, so what’s Skeen got to fear? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=6)