# Andor (starting September 21, 2022) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [September 18, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787 "2022-09-18T23:19:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/162 "2022-10-21T00:59:18Z")
I assume that Syril is not going to be working at the space DMV or whatever for long. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/163 "2022-10-21T01:06:42Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Quite frankly, the most surprising thing was that will all the data the Empire seems to process, they didn’t quickly tie Andor to any of those other incidents as soon as they picked him up. I was thinking about this. The Empire, or Republic, was supposed to have something like one million inhabited systems. Imagine what that does to your reporting systems. If every planet has one fugitive per week escape to some other system, you get one million BOLOs _every week_. So far as the Empire is concerned, as far as they know, Andor is just one of maybe _millions_ of people wanted for murder this week. > [@msmith537](#): > > Exactly. Similarly the Empire couldn’t function without vast numbers of accountants and middle managers and other space-cubicle jockeys like what’s-his-face from Morlana One. And that’s even canon, from the original movie; “How will the Emperor maintain control without the bureaucracy?” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/164 "2022-10-21T01:08:04Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I assume that Syril is not going to be working at the space DMV or whatever for long I suspect that by the end he will be responsible for some rebel op going badly and will be a Big Damn Hero for the Empire. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/165 "2022-10-21T13:29:54Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > The thing is, as much as that scene was meant to show the oppression of the Empire, that stormtrooper was actually right! “Right” only in the "police should be able to imprison anyone they please because they have ‘instincts’ " sense. Whoever the next person was to turn that corner was going to get the exact same treatment from that shoretrooper. Then he was convicted in a 30 second “trial” of Civil Disruption, anti-Imperial speech, fleeing the scene of anti-Imperial activity, attempted damage to Imperial property." None of which he did on that planet - all he did was look around while he was walking to the store. And when he tried to verbally defend himself to the judge he was threatened with an additional charge of Resisting Judgement. If that’s not oppression, I honestly don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/166 "2022-10-21T15:10:55Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > None of which he did on that planet Well no, attempted damage to imperial property is meant to be him hitting that robot so he doesn’t get choked to death. Anti imperial speech is just the complaining. And he did look like he was fleeing the scene. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/167 "2022-10-22T00:48:39Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Quite frankly, the most surprising thing was that will all the data the Empire seems to process, they didn’t quickly tie Andor to any of those other incidents as soon as they picked him up. They might not _have_ any other info on him. The Corpo records are likely stuck on a shelf somewhere. I do hope Cinta gets away. And I didn’t recognize Vel with makeup and different hair. Intentional, no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/168 "2022-10-26T19:17:37Z")
Latest episode continues the very high standards set so far. Just an amazing show, and I still hold that it’s the best Star Wars on screen since 1980. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/169 "2022-10-27T00:07:16Z")
The latest episode felt very slow and grinding-in a great way, as it really communicated what was going on in the story, if that makes sense? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/170 "2022-10-27T01:12:54Z")
This was the first one that felt a bit weak to me. Not sure that it was because it was slow per se, slow with character development is fine … ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/171 "2022-10-27T05:17:30Z")
It was slow certainly but I think it has earned the trust of the viewers and we’re all pretty much happy with the scene setting and the slow ratcheting up of of the tension and the peril. We know next week will bring things to a conclusion and if the quality of the previous episodes is maintained it’ll be worth waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/172 "2022-10-27T14:18:47Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > We know next week will bring things to a conclusion and if the quality of the previous episodes is maintained it’ll be worth waiting for. There’s still four episodes left. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/173 "2022-10-27T17:38:45Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There’s still four episodes left. ah yes, but I was meaning the conclusion of this three-episode “set” (which I’m assuming/hoping will end with a jail-break and other high-jinks). This episode feels like the middle-act for that. Who knows what the full season conclusion will bring? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/174 "2022-10-27T17:40:48Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > ah yes, but I was meaning the conclusion of this three-episode “set” (which I’m assuming/hoping will end with a jail-break and other high-jinks). This episode feels like the middle-act for that. > Who knows what the full season conclusion will bring? Gotcha, I hadn’t realized we were getting three episode mini storylines but that does track with how its been so far and it makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/175 "2022-10-27T17:44:28Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Gotcha, I hadn’t realized we were getting three episode mini storylines but that does track with how its been so far and it makes sense. That’s certainly how it feels and what was pointed out to me. I also believe each three episode storyline is under the helm of a particular writer and that’s an interesting way of doing it. I’m sure there’s an overarching thread for the full season as well and I’m very interested to see what transpires. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/176 "2022-10-27T17:57:12Z")
Yeah, so far, it was two episodes setting up Andor escaping the corpo planet, followed by a big action episode where he meets Stellan Skarsgaard. Then it was two episodes of plotting the payroll heist, followed by a big action episode where they steal the payroll. We’re now two episodes into setting up Andor getting dicked over by the Imperial legal system, followed, I presume, by a big action episode where Andor breaks out of prison. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/177 "2022-10-27T18:06:48Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@msmith537](#): > > > > Quite frankly, the most surprising thing was that will all the data the Empire seems to process, they didn’t quickly tie Andor to any of those other incidents as soon as they picked him up. > > They might not _have_ any other info on him. The Corpo records are likely stuck on a shelf somewhere. I do hope Cinta gets away. And I didn’t recognize Vel with makeup and different hair. Intentional, no doubt. I also almost didn’t recognize the actress who plays Vel from playing “no one” in Game of Thrones. I do like that Syril Karn, Dedra Meero, and the ISB are actually connecting the dots on Andor (given how big the Galaxy is) and that they aren’t really portrayed as cartoonishly evil morons. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/178 "2022-10-27T20:05:21Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > ah yes, but I was meaning the conclusion of this three-episode “set” (which I’m assuming/hoping will end with a jail-break and other high-jinks). This episode feels like the middle-act for that. The showrunner, Tony Gilroy, has actually said episode 7 (last week’s) was kind of an interstitial, and this week’s is the first in a three episode arc. So if there’s a jailbreak, it won’t be until episode 10. Then 11 and 12 will be like a two part finale. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/179 "2022-10-27T23:17:40Z")
The Empire is doubling sentences and being extra harsh to quell potential rebels, which was what’s-his-name’s point. Have the Empire push too hard, people will rebel. Which we know is eventually true. But I was thinking as we watched them assemble whatever it was they were building that the Empire isn’t just setting an example for trouble makers but needs to keep the slave labor. There are weapons manufacturers, but they must cost more than prison slaves. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/180 "2022-10-28T00:09:37Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > The Empire is doubling sentences and being extra harsh to quell potential rebels Significantly more than doubling, when Andor gets sentenced to six years the judge casually remarks “this used to be six months”. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787/181 "2022-10-28T11:30:54Z")
I think the (remaining) sentences of those already incarcerated were doubled. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andor-starting-september-21-2022/971787.md?page=10)