# Andrei Kivilev is dead

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 12, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrei-kivilev-is-dead/160964 "2003-03-12T23:24:03Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrei-kivilev-is-dead/160964/1 "2003-03-12T23:24:03Z")

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I don’t know how many other dopers follow cycling, but the Cofidis rider Andrei Kivilev died following a crash in Paris-Nice yesaterday. ☹

[http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other\_sports/cycling/2844989.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/2844989.stm)

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrei-kivilev-is-dead/160964/2 "2003-03-12T23:27:14Z")

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oh, goodness. what sad news.

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**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrei-kivilev-is-dead/160964/3 "2003-03-13T05:29:14Z")

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I saw that. Very sad. It happens too often. Lesson to be learned: people, wear your helmets. Can happen even to the best riders.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrei-kivilev-is-dead/160964/4 "2003-03-13T06:09:51Z")

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Oh, fuck. ☹

I saw him laying on the tarmac yesterday as I was watching the highlights of yesterday’s stage. He must have been in a coma right then and there - no movement whatsoever.

It makes me think of [Fabio Casartelli](http://www.torelli.com/kom/casartelli.htm), who tragically died in the 1995 Tour de France. IIRC, he _was_ wearing a helmet, but his temple right below the helmet hit a concrete block by the side of the road.

Helmets can only do so much, and a rider can’t wear a full face helmet - way too warm.

It’s a sad risk that comes with the sport, I’m afraid. But yes, certainly Kiviliev would have had a better chance had he worn his helmet in the first place. Perhaps it should be made mandatory in cycling.