# Andrew Breitbart throwing "big ol' gay party."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384 "2011-01-20T21:48:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/1 "2011-01-20T21:48:02Z")

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Here’s the story:

[http://gawker.com/5739023/gays-finally-get-a-chance-to-grind-with-andrew-breitbart](http://gawker.com/5739023/gays-finally-get-a-chance-to-grind-with-andrew-breitbart)

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> GOProud’s invitation to the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, from February 10-12 this year, has been controversial within the conservative movement; basically, social conservative groups are boycotting because they’re scared of the gays…Now that these social conservatives are out of the way, Andrew Breitbart can use CPAC to throw the party he’s always dreamed of: a “big ol’ gay party.”

Also:

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> I am not endorsing gay marriage, I’m not endorsing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. I will be the harshest critic of the activist gay left, who I fear more than al-Qaida. But for these people not to exist in a two-party system, for you to tell them they’re not welcome in the big tent, I have a huge problem with that and I’m going to indulge in my all '80s Depeche Mode, Cure, New Order fetish and we’re going to have a big 'ol gay party at CPAC.

:eek:

Wow, can this guy sound any more gay?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/2 "2011-01-20T22:39:09Z")

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I’m not sure I see your point.

He sounds gay, therefore … what, exactly?

If we already know he’s a dishonest political operative (what’s the opposite of an oxymoron?), how does suspecting he might be gay, or accusing him of sounding gay, add or subtract from that conclusion?

In short, this pit is lame and stupid.  
Roddy

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/3 "2011-01-20T22:41:21Z")

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> [@Roderick Femm](#):
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> If we already know he’s a dishonest political operative (what’s the opposite of an oxymoron?)

Are you thinking of “redundant”?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/4 "2011-01-20T22:45:36Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Are you thinking of “redundant”?

There ya go. Or maybe tautology.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/5 "2011-01-20T22:56:05Z")

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Or maybe “tautological redundancy”?

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/6 "2011-01-20T23:39:01Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I’m not sure I see your point.
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> He sounds gay, therefore … what, exactly?

That he’s a big ol’ hypocrite, though I guess that’s not unusual for those of his ilk these days.

Also in one breath he says he’s supposed to gays defending their country, but in the next says they’re welcome in his “big tent.”

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/7 "2011-01-20T23:43:12Z")

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What’s being pitted here?

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/8 "2011-01-20T23:45:09Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> That he’s a big ol’ hypocrite, though I guess that’s not unusual for those of his ilk these days.
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> Also in one breath he says he’s supposed to gays defending their country, but in the next says they’re welcome in his “big tent.”

I meant to say “opposed to gays defending their country” not “supposed.”

D’oh. :smack:

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/9 "2011-01-20T23:48:17Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> What’s being pitted here?

Well there’s this:

> [@](#):
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> I am not endorsing gay marriage, I’m not endorsing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. I will be the harshest critic of the activist gay left, who I fear more than al-Qaida. But for these people not to exist in a two-party system, for you to tell them they’re not welcome in the big tent, I have a huge problem with that and I’m going to indulge in my all '80s Depeche Mode, Cure, New Order fetish and we’re going to have a big 'ol gay party at CPAC.

But it’s also really more of a laughing my ass off thread, but I figured any thread involving Breitbart will inevitably draw a great deal of derision, so that’s why I put it here.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/10 "2011-01-21T00:25:19Z")

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GD material, potentially. It highlights some potentially game-changing fractures within the conservative coalition.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/11 "2011-01-21T00:36:23Z")

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Why did he name three bands where, AFAIK, 100% of the members are heterosexual? The Eighties was a pretty gay decade, couldn’t he have tried harder?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/12 "2011-01-21T00:39:12Z")

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Brietbart didn’t say he’s opposed to DADT or gay marriage - he said he’s not using the event to endorse them. I don’t see a problem with that, and I support both gay marriage and the repeal of DADT.

I would think that a major Republican figure supporting the gay community at a large Republican conference would be something that everyone would celebrate.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/13 "2011-01-21T01:33:27Z")

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The gay activitist left is scarier than Al-Queda? Does that mean the TWAT’s going to shift to San Francisco now?

The lesbians will be happy, at least. 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/14 "2011-01-21T01:38:54Z")

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Maybe he could send his erstwhile protege with the video camera to infiltrate the gay lefty activists. Be worth it just to see how he dresses up to pass for gay.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/15 "2011-01-21T01:47:53Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> I would think that a major Republican figure supporting the gay community at a large Republican conference would be something that everyone would celebrate.

He’s supporting the gay community’s right to be far-right conservatives, while pointedly not endorsing their rights to join the military or get married. And he compares gay activists to Al Qaeda. That’s, like, one step up from “some of my best friends are gay.” If that. I think I’ll leave the party hats in the closet for the time being.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/16 "2011-01-21T02:20:08Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Brietbart didn’t say he’s opposed to DADT or gay marriage - he said he’s not using the event to endorse them.

No, he didn’t say that. He said “I am not endorsing gay marriage, I’m not endorsing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. I will be the harshest critic of the activist gay left, who I fear more than al-Qaida.”

He did not indicate specifically what he meant by “not endorsing” gay marriage or DADT. Maybe he meant that he does not support them in general, or maybe he merely meant, as you speculate, that he’s not using this particular event at CPAC to promote support for them, or maybe he meant something else.

I incline towards the former interpretation, based on what he said after that: “But for these people not to exist in a two-party system, for you to tell them they’re not welcome in the big tent, I have a huge problem with that […]”

That sounds as though what he means is “Hey, even though I oppose the agenda of the ‘activist gay left’, I think the conservative movement should not pass up opportunities to welcome like-minded gays.”

(The group in question, GOProud, [defines its own “conservative agenda”](http://www.goproud.org.php5-12.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/federal-legislative-priorities/) in contrast to “the approach of the left”. Their list of “Legislative Priorities” says nothing about gays in the military, and their only stance on gay marriage is that they oppose a federal constitutional amendment prohibiting it.)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/17 "2011-01-21T06:33:32Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> He’s supporting the gay community’s right to be far-right conservatives, while pointedly not endorsing their rights to join the military or get married. And he compares gay activists to Al Qaeda. That’s, like, one step up from “some of my best friends are gay.” If that. I think I’ll leave the party hats in the closet for the time being.

Daresay there are a **few** things you should be leaving in the closet . . .

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/18 "2011-01-21T06:56:32Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> He did not indicate specifically what he meant by “not endorsing” gay marriage or DADT. Maybe he meant that he does not support them in general, or maybe he merely meant, as you speculate, that he’s not using this particular event at CPAC to promote support for them, or maybe he meant something else.
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> I incline towards the former interpretation, based on what he said after that: “But for these people not to exist in a two-party system, for you to tell them they’re not welcome in the big tent, I have a huge problem with that […]”

I think he’s saying it defensively. He’s saying "“I’m anticipating that people will assume my support of GOProud at CPAC is because I support gay marriage or DADT repeal, but I’m telling you that’s not why I support them showing up”. He’s not actually expressing his opinion of gay marriage or DADT repeal.

And I’m also somebody who doesn’t get why this OP was opened. I mean, there are a lot of reasons to pit Andrew Breitbart, but I think he’s on the side of the angels here.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/19 "2011-01-21T07:27:10Z")

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Depeche Mode I can almost see, but the Cure & New Order gay? Whut?

> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Why did he name three bands where, AFAIK, 100% of the members are heterosexual? The Eighties was a pretty gay decade, couldn’t he have tried harder?

Yeah, I mean, come on! Or at least a band widely thought to be gay. Erasure maybe? No, never mind them. How do you not mention the Pet Shop Boys?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-breitbart-throwing-big-ol-gay-party/568384/20 "2011-01-21T07:42:15Z")

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He’s the result if Perez Hilton and Dale Gribble had a son. I’ve always assumed James O’Keefe is his butt-boy; the way O’Keefe planned to [seduce](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20018030-503544.html) Abby Boudreau it’s very clear he hasn’t got a clue how to convince a woman to sleep with you, and Breitbart having his back on his legal problems is probably more literal than symbolic.

I detest Breitbart so much that I don’t even like Orson Bean for having defended him as “a good guy and a great dad”. (Breitbart’'s married to Bean’s daughter.)

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