# Andrew Gillum in bizarre hotel room incident **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 13, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426 "2020-03-13T17:48:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/1 "2020-03-13T17:48:44Z")
Story here. [Andrew Gillum involved in suspected crystal meth incident in Miami Beach, police say](https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/13/andrew-gillum-involved-in-suspected-crystal-meth-incident-in-miami-beach-police-say/) This is just weird. At first glance, this sounds like a gay orgy, PNP (party and play) gay sex accompanied by crystal meth is certainly common enough and that goes double for Miami. Ok, maybe it isn’t but it’s still really weird. This sounds like the crazy adventures of a college kid on spring break, not what happens with a married former gubernatorial candidate and rising Democratic star. I’ll be following this story because I need something different than viruses and Bernie Sanders. But if you told me I’d wake up in a world where Sarah Palin was rapping Baby Got Back dressed as a neon bear and Andrew Gillum was drunk and just happened to be hanging out in a hotel room with three other men where crystal meth was being used, I’d question your sanity and tell you to stay away from the brown acid. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/2 "2020-03-13T17:50:10Z")
If accurate, this is a minor tragedy for the national party (and a major tragedy for the FL state party), as Gillum is/was a very talented young Democratic official. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/3 "2020-03-13T18:30:59Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > At first glance, this sounds like a gay orgy, PNP (party and play) gay sex accompanied by crystal meth is certainly common enough and that goes double for Miami. Wow, I know I’m old but I guess I’m more out of touch than I realized. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/4 "2020-03-13T18:37:45Z")
Me too. To be clear, this is something that happens at gay orgies but not at straight meth parties? …not that there’s anything wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/5 "2020-03-13T18:42:21Z")
> [@](#): > > I will spend the next few weeks with my family and appreciate privacy during this time. Yeah, he’s finished. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/6 "2020-03-13T18:45:43Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Me too. To be clear, this is something that happens at gay orgies but not at straight meth parties? …not that there’s anything wrong with that. I don’t know that there’s a huge straight orgy scene with all night sex fueled by meth. Maybe there is. It’s certainly common enough in the gay world, especially among men who bareback (have sex without condoms) ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/7 "2020-03-13T18:49:13Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > At first glance, this sounds like a gay orgy, PNP (party and play) gay sex accompanied by crystal meth is certainly common enough and that goes double for Miami. Um, why would you assume that? There’s nothing in the article to support this at all. It’s okay to watch gay porn, you know. No one will know. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/8 "2020-03-13T18:50:51Z")
As a further update, it appears the person involved with the meth OD is Travis Dylan, well known Instagay. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/9 "2020-03-13T18:57:30Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Um, why would you assume that? There’s nothing in the article to support this at all. > > It’s okay to watch gay porn, you know. No one will know. The article reports that all 3 men were alone together, naked in a hotel room, and crystal meth was being used. There’s nothing conclusive about what was happening but to say there was nothing at all to support the assumption doesn’t seem accurate. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/10 "2020-03-13T19:01:02Z")
So much for keeping it on the DL. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/11 "2020-03-13T19:09:39Z")
There’s nothing in the article that says they were naked. Regardless, the jump to “must have been a big gay orgy!” sure speaks of a real lack of experience in this area, but it sounds like quite the fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/12 "2020-03-13T19:17:34Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > There’s nothing in the article that says they were naked. Regardless, the jump to “must have been a big gay orgy!” sure speaks of a real lack of experience in this area, but it sounds like quite the fantasy. You couldn’t be more wrong. I’m gay and I’ve been around a lot. I described the situation to a gay friend of mine that doesn’t follow politics and he jumped to the exact same conclusion. Here’s another version of the story > **[Andrew Gillum Involved in Alleged Crystal-Meth Incident in Miami Beach](https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/andrew-gillum-in-alleged-meth-incident-in-miami-beach-police-say-11594094)** > > Former Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum was allegedly involved in an incident involving crystal meth at a Miami Beach hotel. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/13 "2020-03-13T19:25:41Z")
Crystal meth is rampant in the gay community. I also immediately assume PnP when hearing about a group of guys and crystal meth because it is so frustratingly common. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/14 "2020-03-13T19:46:04Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Crystal meth is rampant in the gay community. I also immediately assume PnP when hearing about a group of guys and crystal meth because it is so frustratingly common. I changed my Grindr to search profiles in Miami, didn’t take long to find someone wanting to host an afternoon T party, and I’m sure they didn’t mean Earl Grey. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/15 "2020-03-13T19:50:54Z")
I still haven’t seen a confirmed report of nakedness, but I’ll bow to your experience. Seemed like a reach from the first article, just because my gay and non-gay friends doing drugs together in a hotel would not be that remarkable. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/16 "2020-03-13T20:12:55Z")
if they found meth why was nobody arrested? Or do they need a lab test to prove it was meth? ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/17 "2020-03-13T20:22:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If accurate, this is a minor tragedy for the national party (and a major tragedy for the FL state party), as Gillum is/was a very talented young Democratic official. Again assuming accuracy - I guess it’s better to have this come out now (eh, sorry for the tasteless pun) than to have his star really rise and then for him to be disgraced. As things now stand, he’ll be forgotten outside Florida pretty fast. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/18 "2020-03-13T20:37:46Z")
He could move to NJ and be the 2nd gay governor there. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/19 "2020-03-13T20:45:20Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > if they found meth why was nobody arrested? Or do they need a lab test to prove it was meth? Florida appears to have a Good Samaritan act similar to New Jersey where you can’t be prosecuted for drug possession for seeking medical assistance for an overdose. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/20 "2020-03-13T21:10:39Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Florida appears to have a Good Samaritan act similar to New Jersey where you can’t be prosecuted for drug possession for seeking medical assistance for an overdose. And it seems like it was a small quantity for personal use. I’m not sure a big city would even bother even if it was 3 anonymous guys, I’m sure Miami gets this a lot. Meth isn’t marijuana but all three have had their names published and it seems that would be enough. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426.md?page=2)