# Andrew Gillum in bizarre hotel room incident

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 13, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426 "2020-03-13T17:48:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/41 "2020-03-15T08:33:24Z")

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Can I propose a career move for Mr Gillum? Convert and join the Log Cabin Republicans. Just because.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/42 "2020-03-15T08:44:37Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Crystal meth is rampant in the gay community.

I got that from David Sedaris in _Me Talk Pretty One Day_. He startled me by saying that marijuana made him uptight and self-conscious (the opposite of how I’d always experienced it), and contrasted that with how meth freed him from inhibitions. I’ve never tried meth, so I can’t speak to that.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/43 "2020-03-15T08:52:16Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> And the newspaper referred to the crystal meth as a “narcotic.” I’m guessing that neither users of meth nor users of narcotics consider meth to be a “narcotic.”

You know the drill… “War is peace, freedom is slavery, speed is narcotic.”

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/44 "2020-03-15T13:45:31Z")

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Is there any reason not to think that it wasn’t just him and a couple of his buddies getting together to use meth? I mean, not that that is a good thing, but the gay orgy thing seems to be just gossip, no? Doesn’t he have a wife and kids? Nothing wrong with being gay, but the “orgy” part, if untrue, would put an extra hurt on him and his family.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/45 "2020-03-15T14:26:33Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Is there any reason not to think that it wasn’t just him and a couple of his buddies getting together to use meth? I mean, not that that is a good thing, but the gay orgy thing seems to be just gossip, no? Doesn’t he have a wife and kids? Nothing wrong with being gay, but the “orgy” part, if untrue, would put an extra hurt on him and his family.

Hey Ted Haggard has a wife and kids too, right?

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/46 "2020-03-15T14:36:11Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I don’t mean to pile on Gillum, but: okay, never mind, I will. I watch a lot of cable news and so have seen him quite a few times; not once have I ever heard him make a remark that wasn’t a cliché or political platitude. I just have not been impressed. He hasn’t struck me as being insightful or a skilled communicator or anything that would make me think he has a bright political future.
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> That said, I hope he figures out whatever is going on in his life and makes peace with it.

Yes, never specifics. He thinks looking elegant and speaking clearly with a good tone is enough. But then again, I never see anyone worth their weight on TV media.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/47 "2020-03-15T14:47:45Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Is there any reason not to think that it wasn’t just him and a couple of his buddies getting together to use meth? I mean, not that that is a good thing, but the gay orgy thing seems to be just gossip, no? Doesn’t he have a wife and kids? Nothing wrong with being gay, but the “orgy” part, if untrue, would put an extra hurt on him and his family.

If you’re traveling alone, and the police find you in a hotel room with someone who advertises as an escort, and there are drugs, and you’re both intoxicated, that’s some strong circumstantial evidence. No matter the escort’s gender.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/48 "2020-03-15T14:50:16Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> [https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/14/man-found-with-gillum-at-south-beach-hotel-room-is-openly-gay/](https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/03/14/man-found-with-gillum-at-south-beach-hotel-room-is-openly-gay/)

_“A Democratic party star is facing questions about being alone and inebriated in a Mondrian South Beach Hotel room with a friend who once purported to be “a pornstar performer” online and who ended up hospitalized over a suspected drug overdose.”_

That lead contains all the elements of a good Jimmy Buffett song.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/49 "2020-03-15T16:50:45Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> _“A Democratic party star is facing questions about being alone and inebriated in a Mondrian South Beach Hotel room with a friend who once purported to be “a pornstar performer” online and who ended up hospitalized over a suspected drug overdose.”_
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> That lead contains all the elements of a good Jimmy Buffett song.

Ween - Bananas and Blow

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/50 "2020-03-15T16:59:05Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Crystal meth is rampant in the gay community. I also immediately assume PnP when hearing about a group of guys and crystal meth because it is so frustratingly common.

Why would a particular drug be common in the gay community? It’s not like the drug dealers know the sexuality of their customers. They would (presumably) have been raised in different neighborhoods, different ethnic groups… it’s just confusing.

> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> if they found meth why was nobody arrested? Or do they need a lab test to prove it was meth?

The person who would otherwise have been arrested was a politically powerful person. Although, to be honest, I’m surprised that a black Democrat was **not** arrested **in Florida**. (Larry Craig’s political position did not save him from a similar humiliation.) Of course now Mr. Gillum will have to explain himself. He wasn’t suffering from overuse of marijuana.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/51 "2020-03-15T17:14:23Z")

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> [@Kimera757](#):
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> Why would a particular drug be common in the gay community? It’s not like the drug dealers know the sexuality of their customers. They would (presumably) have been raised in different neighborhoods, different ethnic groups… it’s just confusing.

Are you being serious?

Drugs are sold (from the seller to the buyer) on the buyers initiative. The buyers will come to your neighborhood if they are motivated enough. They don’t need to know the sexuality of the seller.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/52 "2020-03-15T22:42:47Z")

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> [@MortSahlFan](#):
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> Yes, never specifics. He thinks looking elegant and speaking clearly with a good tone is enough. But then again, I never see anyone worth their weight on TV media.

Sidetrack: I find Fareed Zakaria and Brian Stelter always worth listening to. Over at MSNBC, Nicole Wallace often surprises me by saying something unplatitudinous. (There are others worth mentioning, but I’ll stop here, given it’s a sidetrack.)

Back on topic: I’d guess that Gillum was embraced on the theory that those who pay attention to politics were hungry for someone who’d remind them of Obama. But Gillum never really had much in common with Obama, other than having a darker-than-peach skin color.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/53 "2020-03-16T00:30:09Z")

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Gillum to enter alcohol rehab. Notice how he releases this on a slow news day.

> **[Gillum seeks rehab for alcohol abuse after incident involving suspected...](https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article241211656.html)**
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> Days after police say they found him in a South Beach hotel room with a collapsed companion and baggies of crystal meth, former Florida gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum announced plans Sunday night to enter rehab for alcohol abuse and step away...

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/54 "2020-03-16T03:20:01Z")

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So, there you are, delivering a pizza to a bunch of gay furry fetishists snorting meth, PCP and MDA, and someone yells through the door that everybody is on quarantine and you hear the outside lock go _“Clank!”_

“Look, Honey, I can explain! I was delivering food to this room full of…well, kinda strange people and then they locked us in, so I can’t…Honey, can’t talk, a racoon is trying to fuck me…”

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/55 "2020-03-16T04:09:03Z")

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The jargon in this thread makes me feel about a million years old.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/56 "2020-03-16T04:50:36Z")

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> [@Kimera757](#):
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> Why would a particular drug be common in the gay community? It’s not like the drug dealers know the sexuality of their customers. They would (presumably) have been raised in different neighborhoods, different ethnic groups… it’s just confusing.

Cuz its speed. It lets you fuck for ages and regular use keeps you skinny and fuckable even when you’re not high. Two things that top the list for gay men in the club or the trade scene.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/57 "2020-03-16T05:27:59Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> The jargon in this thread makes me feel about a million years old.

Matlock is available on Amazon Prime, ask your grandchildren how to get it working.  
😉

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrew-gillum-in-bizarre-hotel-room-incident/849426/58 "2020-03-16T16:09:10Z")

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Or just buy yourself that Amazon Echo Silver you’ve had your eye on: [Amazon Echo - SNL - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk)

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