# andrewdt85: a defense

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 21, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148 "2005-11-21T21:58:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jimpatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@jimpatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimpatro)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/61 "2005-11-22T00:39:10Z")

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**Cynical Gabe**

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> You eat stupid food for breakfast.

This killed me. Just killed me.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/62 "2005-11-22T00:47:23Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Best laugh I’ve had in a while and it felt **good**.

Glad I could oblige. This is like a surrealist trainwreck, as it is. I’m waiting for the flaming giraffes to come galloping across the thread.

If we can steal a few laughs from the crazyness, I think we deserve 'em.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/63 "2005-11-22T00:50:11Z")

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> [@jimpatro](#):
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> **Cynical Gabe**  
> This killed me. Just killed me.

_takes a bow_

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/64 "2005-11-22T00:50:13Z")

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> SOMEBODY PLEASE LOOK AT ME I CAN DO A CANNONBALL!

Is this about Terrell Owens again?

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/65 "2005-11-22T00:52:03Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> If you have a problem, why don’t you fucking ACTUALLY MAKE AN ARGUMENT instead of just pointing and giggling like a chimp? You’re saying NOTHING when you make a post like this! “Uhh, this shit is priceless, huh huh huh” is no different than making a “ **Pulls up a chair to watch** LOLZ” post.
> 
> What the hell has happened to this place?

A) I don’t have a problem. For problems look in the mirror.  
B) Since “A” is true, I don’t have an argumant to make.  
C) I will giggle like a chimp when I fucking well please, **assface**. Especially at you.  
D) You and **Andrew** the fucktard amuse me. It’s ridiculous first off that he feels the need to pollute the boards here with his noise, then posts a fucking novel to tell us he’s going to stop. I found it amusing that you considered his paint-sniffing haze infused ramblings, what was it: “intelligent and serious”?  
E) Yes, I’ve pulled up a chair. Now I’ve responded to you. Now I’ll sit here and await your measured and rational response. You **will** make sure to do that funny thing where every few words are really fucking big won’t you? It makes me giggle like a monkey.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/66 "2005-11-22T01:00:05Z")

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> [@andrewdt85](#):
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> First off, let me say again how sorry I am to **Qadgop the Mercotan** for Pitting him in my thread ‘Fuck you, doctors.’ He didn’t have anything to do w/ my rant except that I knew he was a doctor; I know nothing of him personally, or of his ethics and practices.

Here’s an attempt at a calm answer.

Your rant was _horrible_. Absolutely horrible. And for the record, there were the beginnings of a good debate in there: lots of doctors don’t pay attention, don’t really care, just want to get you in and out. But your rant was so unclear. I know you’ve apologized for the swipe at **Quadgop** , but if you honestly wanted that thread to go anywhere you should have done it much sooner. Hold on, lemme go pull it up…

Upon reading it, it’s unclear, incoherent, you take a sharp right to bash **Quadgop** , a sharp left to bash pyschiatrists into the bargain, and then demand that no responses say anything like “You should study up yourself.”

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**Author:** ![lorinada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5e925/32.png) [@lorinada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorinada)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/67 "2005-11-22T01:25:22Z")

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You know, Andrew, it’s only a fucking message board. If it’s causing you this much grief and distress, why don’t you just leave it alone? Stop picking at it like it was a scab.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/68 "2005-11-22T01:35:21Z")

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> [@featherlou](#):
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> Quote:  
> Originally Posted by furt  
> Andrew, could you please start some threads on:
> 
> – overweight people  
> – bipolar disorder  
> – circumcision  
> – transsexualism  
> I think you may be able to acheive a sort of greatness.
> 
> And:
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> - SUVs
> - driving slowly in the fast lane
> - disciplining other people’s children
> - de-clawing cats
> - gun control
> - taking your shoes off in the house
> - ordering milk in a bar
> 
> Now, if you could just get them all into one OP, THAT oughta do it.

How about a thread about overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house?

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/69 "2005-11-22T02:34:33Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> If we can steal a few laughs from the crazyness…

A few? Hell, I haven’t laughed this hard in weeks! Thanks, guys!

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/70 "2005-11-22T02:35:33Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> How about a thread about overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house?

I really want to add something to that, but I think you’ve got it covered. 🙂

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/71 "2005-11-22T02:43:08Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> I really want to add something to that, but I think you’ve got it covered. 🙂

Nope, **Mr. Blue Sky** didn’t specify pre-op or post-op transsexuals. That’s a very important distinction.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/72 "2005-11-22T02:50:01Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Nope, **Mr. Blue Sky** didn’t specify pre-op or post-op transsexuals. That’s a very important distinction.

Are they Korean transvestites who like talking about fashion and work for Jerry Orbach?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/73 "2005-11-22T02:53:58Z")

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Ooops, that should be Korean transsexuals. Not transvestites.

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**Author:** ![inkleberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f17d59/32.png) [@inkleberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inkleberry)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/74 "2005-11-22T03:10:15Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> How about a thread about overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house?

…who also use food stamps to buy liquor/ lobster/ candy and either live in bad areas of town or live with their parents?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/75 "2005-11-22T03:16:38Z")

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Ok, **andrewdt85** , you’ve asked how many threads you should start in order not to get piled on.

Personally, i’m not sure that there’s a correct answer, but it certainly seems to me that you could benefit from starting fewer threads of your own, and spending more time joining in other people’s conversations.

Your total post count, as of 9.50pm Eastern here in the US, is 1,039. And the total number of threads you have started is 218.

Contrast this ratio with these figures:

**mhendo** (me)

Total posts: 7,455  
Threads started: 198

**FinnAgain**

Total posts: 4,841  
Threads started: 50

**furt**

Total posts: 4,386  
Threads started: 150  
**kidchameleon**

Total posts: 1,357  
Threads started: 13  
**El\_Kabong**

Total posts: 3,906  
Threads started: 104  
**Lute Skywatcher**

Total posts: 13,278  
Threads started: 447  
**Sal Ammoniac**

Total posts: 525  
Threads started: 32  
**Atticus Finch**

Total posts: 1,555  
Threads started: 33  
**The Gaspode**

Total posts: 3,247  
Threads started: 243  
**Agent Foxtrot**

Total posts: 806  
Threads started: 152

Do you notice a pattern here, and how it contrasts with your own posting habits? The only person in this list who comes close your number of threads started as a percentage of total posts is **Agent Foxtrot** , and he’s spread his threads out over the past 2+ years.

Of the rest of the people in the list, no-one has a threads/posts ratio above 1/10, and most are under 1/20.

I’m not saying that the people in this list are necessarily exemplars of how to post on the SDMB. I just chose them randomly from people who have posted in this thread. But i’m willling to bet that their posting and thread-starting habits are rather typical of medium- to long-term Dopers.

I won’t offer any more advice; i’ll leave you to take whatever you feel might be useful from this post.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/76 "2005-11-22T03:18:01Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> How about a thread about overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house?

And like President Bush.

If you can’t get it going with that, you should just quit.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/77 "2005-11-22T03:23:33Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> You eat stupid food for breakfast.

\<applauds vociferously\>

I am not gonna wade through this whole thread–just wanted to say thanks for the laugh.

**andrew** --I share some of your frustrations with modern health care, but I can’t help but feel that no good can come from this type of thing (the whole apology/but here is my defense and BTW, fuck you thing).

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/78 "2005-11-22T03:24:21Z")

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> [@inkleberry](#):
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> …who also use food stamps to buy liquor/ lobster/ candy and either live in bad areas of town or live with their parents?

And have ten cats that are declawed.

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**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/79 "2005-11-22T03:25:06Z")

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But what’s wrong with overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house and likes George Bush?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2005, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/andrewdt85-a-defense/332148/80 "2005-11-22T03:35:49Z")

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> [@Fritz](#):
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> But what’s wrong with overweight, bi-polar transsexuals who order milk in a bar and want to circumcise other people’s children while driving an SUV in the slow lane and de-clawing cats that are in favor of gun control for people who don’t take their shoes off when entering someone’s house and likes George Bush?

What if they also chew gum with their mouths open?

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