# Angel 3/26/03 - Players (Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 27, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477 "2003-03-27T06:20:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/41 "2003-03-28T18:48:46Z")
I re-watched the episode again this morning, and I don’t think Angel was signaling anything to Wesley or Fred with the text-reading. Angel wouldn’t have risked Wesley saying aloud “I think Cordelia is up to something” when Cordelia was right there. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/42 "2003-03-28T18:59:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hecubis \* > \*\*Well I’m in Canada and saw it on Wednesday. It was on an hour later than usual after 2 episodes of Buffy. I usually watch it on Tuesday but was out and missed it so I don’t know if it ever aired that night. > FYI I have BellExpress West satellite so that might make a difference. \*\* Lucky bastard-- where do you live. I’m in Vancouver, and **drewcosten** must be in Ontario, where the ep did not air on city’s junior affiliates. ---
**Author:** ![drewcosten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@drewcosten](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewcosten)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/43 "2003-03-28T20:51:39Z")
Yup, in Toronto. Well, according the the NewVR’s website this ep is going to play next tuesday at the scheduled time, so looks like we’re gonna be a week behind up here unless next week is scheduled to be a rerun. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/44 "2003-03-28T22:02:31Z")
I think I pinpointed exactly when Angel knew Cordy wasn’t herself. It was when she was about to tip the coffee over onto the reconstructed translations. It’s been well-estbalished that Angel has a preternatural awareness of precarious coffee cups. In the first season alone, there’re at least three different times that Angel meets someone in trouble and shows off by grabbing a dropped coffee cup before it can hit the ground. Clearly, he noticed Cordelia toying with the coffee cup and deduced the sabotage she was planning. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/45 "2003-03-28T22:41:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Angel has a preternatural awareness of precarious coffee cups I’m not saying I want to be a vampire, but damn, that would be handy skill to have. ---
**Author:** ![Hecubis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ec9cab/32.png) [@Hecubis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hecubis)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/46 "2003-03-29T01:46:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Lucky bastard-- where do you live. I’m in Vancouver, and drewcosten must be in Ontario, where the ep did not air on city’s junior affiliates. I guess it pays to live in the great white north. I’m in Yellowknife, but I’d assumed the satellite feed was the same in all of the west. That’s if you think of the NWT as the west I guess. ---
**Author:** ![robertliguori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@robertliguori](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robertliguori)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/47 "2003-03-29T01:54:01Z")
I don’t think that it was a hidden message in the text. If Angel was reproducing the text from visual memory, then he doesn’t know the language. And pretending not to know the language and hiding a hidden message is a little too complex, expecially compared to dragging Wes, Fred, and Lorne off into a corner and planning something whe Cordy is playing with Conner. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/48 "2003-03-29T03:23:51Z")
**robertliguori** : It also assumes that whatever it is that is possesing or otherwise mimicing Cordy _can’t_ read whatever language it is they’re passing notes in. I think he was doing exactly what he said he was doing. Further, I suspect this is a setup for an extradimensional book-buying jaunt in a future episode, as Angel and the gang go looking for other unexpurgated volumes on other planets. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/49 "2003-03-29T09:06:40Z")
I think Angel knew as soon as Cordy appeared on the stairs. I mean, hell, if “I didn’t want to be a distraction” isn’t a lame excuse to not tell anyone about a mystical pregnancy, I don’t know what is. I loved Lorne’s reaction when he saw Cordy. That was hilarious. God, I want a dress like that one… I was a bit upset by Gunn making love with Gwen. I really hoped that he and Fred would reconcile. After he nearly caught her kissing Wesley and freaked out, then after Fred made the “I want to go back to the way things were before” speech, I really thought those two crazy kids would get it back together. Oh, well, maybe now she’ll get together with Fred. (slashy thought- with all the parallels I’ve been drawing between Wesley/Lilah and S6 Spike/Buffy, Wesley/Fred would look an awful lot like Buffy/Willow. At least it would from where I’m sitting.) ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/50 "2003-03-29T14:18:08Z")
I thought Cordy’s dress was horrible. ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/51 "2003-03-30T10:49:55Z")
Mmmmm…Electro-Girl. Mmmmmm. And…ummmm…the other stuff was cool too. ---
**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/52 "2003-03-31T22:31:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fiver \* > \*\*I re-watched the episode again this morning, and I don’t think Angel was signaling anything to Wesley or Fred with the text-reading. Angel wouldn’t have risked Wesley saying aloud “I think Cordelia is up to something” when Cordelia was right there. \*\* Except that he knows that Wesley is smart enough not to. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/53 "2003-04-01T02:45:09Z")
Darn, hamsters used my reply for nesting material. Go Gunn, he proves he can kick ass, and knows when to not kick ass. Not just acting suave, being suave. Gwen could be good for him, showing him that he’s more than just muscle, which is clearly his assigned role back with the gang. Still, he should end up back with Fred. But for now, Gunn and Gwen works. I liked the continued use of Lorne’s secret messages. First Fluffy, now this peach of a demon. And I think Angel was trying to goad Cordy into reckless action by calling the Beast’s boss dumb. Not sure when exactly he figured it out. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477/54 "2003-04-01T06:34:03Z")
—Still, he should end up back with Fred.— Yeah, that wasn’t a completely lifeless relationship with no chemistry even before they murdered Sidel or anything. Wes and Fred 4EvA! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-3-26-03-players-spoilers/164477.md?page=2)