# Angel 5/12 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 13, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893 "2004-05-13T02:08:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/81 "2004-05-14T18:04:06Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > But I thought that if Illyria blew up, it was kinda like a nuclear explosion and she’d take a big chunk of L.A. with her. But they drained her energy to prevent the explosion. I’d taken it to mean there is no longer eneough energy in her for a major explosion. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/82 "2004-05-14T19:06:37Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > But they drained her energy to prevent the explosion. I’d taken it to mean there is no longer eneough energy in her for a major explosion. No, my post was in response to **Sauron** ’s post about reversing-the-polarity-of-the-dilithium-crystals to give her back all her energy so she can go kaboom! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/83 "2004-05-14T20:05:12Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > But I thought that if Illyria blew up, it was kinda like a nuclear explosion and she’d take a big chunk of L.A. with her. More like all of North America. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/84 "2004-05-14T20:48:03Z")
> [@Barbarian](#): > > Did anyone else watch next week’s preview in slow motion? According to Tv Tome: Connor will be in the next episode (though it doesn’t say what he’s doing or anything), as will Lindsay (of course), Eve, and Anne (remember her, the chick who runs the youth shelter–the one that Buffy gave her job to in Season #? OMG, I’m a dork). ---
**Author:** ![Riqay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Riqay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riqay)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/85 "2004-05-14T21:03:33Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > According to Tv Tome: > > Connor will be in the next episode (though it doesn’t say what he’s doing or anything), as will Lindsay (of course), Eve, and Anne (remember her, the chick who runs the youth shelter–the one that Buffy gave her job to in Season #? OMG, I’m a dork). Anne from the first ep in Buffy season #3? (I’m a dork, too.) I remember both eps (the one in Buffy and the one in Angel) but never made the connection between the characters. Thanks for pointing that out! ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/86 "2004-05-14T21:43:11Z")
> [@Riqay](#): > > Anne from the first ep in Buffy season #3? (I’m a dork, too.) I remember both eps (the one in Buffy and the one in Angel) but never made the connection between the characters. Thanks for pointing that out! [spoiler]But that’s not when she was introduced. She was in S2 **Lie To Me**. She was the blonde Spike bit in the cellar then tossed her aside, giving her a very rude wake-up to what a vampire actually is. I’m a bigger dork. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Riqay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Riqay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riqay)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/87 "2004-05-14T22:37:16Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > [spoiler]But that’s not when she was introduced. She was in S2 **Lie To Me**. She was the blonde Spike bit in the cellar then tossed her aside, giving her a very rude wake-up to what a vampire actually is. > > I’m a bigger dork. [/spoiler] [in awe]Very nice … I’m impressed! You are truly a dork of magnificent wisdom – I’ll think of you the next time my friends look at me funny when I come up with some random Buffyverse trivia! 🙂 [/in awe] ---
**Author:** ![Wasabee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f05b48/32.png) [@Wasabee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wasabee)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2004, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/88 "2004-05-15T06:06:03Z")
That last shot of Hamilton looking into the office and “seeing” the glamour… I was fully prepared for Illyria to appear behind him with a big icky looking knife… Off with his head! ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/89 "2004-05-19T12:40:07Z")
I finally got around to TiVo-watching this last night and yeah, what the hell is Hamilton?! Eve sure never showed that kind of power _and_ he seems to have been around for a long time already, which makes me wonder what he needed Eve to sign over her immortality for (if he’s been around long enough to have history with Drogon, he’s well nigh immortal already, right?) I really, _really_ want to see some Illyria payback, maybe some she can cast slo-mo on Baldwin and then just wail on him- whack whack whack_whackwhackwhack!!!_ Ye-haw! Do we have only one ep left, or is there one more before the finale? ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/90 "2004-05-19T13:34:39Z")
Good memory, **pepperlandgirl**! I remember that episode (the one where Buffy’s ex-boyfriend sought to get himself “made”), but forgot that unsouled Spike had met Anne in it. I hope she remembers him tonight, if they have a scene together. That’ll make a nice moment. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/91 "2004-05-19T15:09:13Z")
> [@Fiver](#): > > Good memory, **pepperlandgirl**! I remember that episode (the one where Buffy’s ex-boyfriend sought to get himself “made”), but forgot that unsouled Spike had met Anne in it. > > I hope she remembers him tonight, if they have a scene together. That’ll make a nice moment. I suppose there’s some reason why you didn’t put this SPOILER for the season finale in a spoiler box? ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/92 "2004-05-19T15:30:16Z")
**Otto** , I’m probably being whooshed, but if not … how is what **Fiver** posted a spoiler? He/she is posting a what-if. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/93 "2004-05-19T15:55:37Z")
> [@Sauron](#): > > I’m probably being whooshed, but if not … how is what **Fiver** posted a spoiler? He/she is posting a what-if. **Fiver** just confirmed that a character is returning for the final episode (that had been disguised in a spoiler box until just then). “If they have a scene together” may be a “what-if”, but that’s beside the point. I don’t think it will amount to much though. I don’t recall Anne being tremendoulsy important in the grand scheme of things. So it’s probably not a major plot point (then again, it could be). A lot of finales parade past characters across the screen, just as a salute to the series. Kinda like Clem’s very brief appearance at the end of Buffy, when he was there just long enough to say “I’m leaving town! Bye!” If someone spoilered a more interesting character’s surprise retun, I’d be ticked though. I’ve still got my fingers crossed that Lilah will have a cameo. Or Gwen. Or _Clem!_ Clem needs an _Angel_ cameo, this is the last chance to do it! Give us Clem! Give us Clem! ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893/94 "2004-05-19T16:03:30Z")
Man, what I’d love to see in the finale is Faith and a squadron of Slayerettes coming to help Angel and the gang out … with Gwen and Groo in tow, maybe. Angel whines about not having power, but adding up the people he’s called “ally” over the years… yeesh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-5-12-spoilers/244893.md?page=4)