# Angel April 22 (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 23, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100 "2002-04-23T02:58:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/1 "2002-04-23T02:58:38Z")
Line of the night: “Your soul wasn’t worth air conditioning?” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/2 "2002-04-23T03:21:56Z")
I liked Angel’s strategy for winning. I have one question about the episode though. The place clearly said Casino. Isn’t gambling illegal everywhere in Californa? Would’t there be considerable trouble with operating the place as a result. ---
**Author:** ![stankow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@stankow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stankow)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/3 "2002-04-23T03:32:42Z")
There are card parlors in California, I presume because there’s skill involved or because you’re not playing against the house or somesuch. But do you really think that a demon would care about the legal niceties? “Sir, we’re okay with the soul sucking and the ritual beheadings, but those slot machines have to go.” ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/4 "2002-04-23T03:33:22Z")
Maybe the demon was Native American… I don’t see how this gets Gunn off the hook. Even if the demon (Jenoff?) is dead, he probably has heirs. They’d own Gunn’s soul now. ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/5 "2002-04-23T04:04:46Z")
Yup. I’d bet that Jenoff is still alive. A beating won’t do what a beheading can’t accomplish. What I liked most about this show is that, unlike some vampire-slayer-based-shows out there, this show knows how to insert a not-so-serious episode into the midst of very dramatic story arcs, without blowing the built-up tension, to remind you of why you like these characters to start with. ---
**Author:** ![Hazel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Hazel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazel)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/6 "2002-04-23T04:18:02Z")
Anyone have any theories re what Wesley will do now? ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/7 "2002-04-23T04:23:43Z")
Lead a sad, sad, sad life. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/8 "2002-04-23T04:43:57Z")
Rescue Connor? ---
**Author:** ![stankow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@stankow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stankow)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/9 "2002-04-23T04:44:39Z")
Reveal that he _is_ Connor? ---
**Author:** ![Shera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Shera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shera)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/10 "2002-04-23T05:34:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LaurAnge \* > \*\*Line of the night: > > “Your soul wasn’t worth air conditioning?” \*\* Defenatly. It had me cracking up. My theory is that Gru will feel unuseful and decide to go out and “discover” the world. That’s me theory anyway. He won’t be around much longer. ---
**Author:** ![Edwardina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Edwardina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edwardina)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/11 "2002-04-23T05:41:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrVisible \* > \*\*Rescue Connor? \*\* Wes has to rescue Connor, or be instrumental in his rescue. Or possibly in his reconciliation with Angel (since I don’t think we’ll actually see Connor again until he’s a grown man). How else can he continue on the show? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@The\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tim)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/12 "2002-04-23T05:53:36Z")
As a vengeful ghost killed by his friend. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/13 "2002-04-23T10:48:53Z")
Good show overall, though it did continue the oh so annoying trend of people keeping stupid secrets from their friends. Let’s see, I can tell my girlfriend and demon hunting buddies about this demon that want’s to take my soul, or pretend to dump my GF (in a most cruel way) and just give up and die. Can’t somebody walk in the door and say “Yo, guys! I’m in some serious trouble here!” ---
**Author:** ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/14 "2002-04-23T13:25:52Z")
Anybody happen to have a tape of this and/or the last episode? I missed them. (Grr). I’ll bat my eyelashes at you… ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/15 "2002-04-23T14:06:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cheesesteak \* > \*\*Good show overall, though it did continue the oh so annoying trend of people keeping stupid secrets from their friends. > \*\* That trend, of course, is the basis for much of the drama in both _Angel_ and _Buffy_. You’d think they’d learn by now they can count on their friends for help. ---
**Author:** ![MONTY2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@MONTY2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MONTY2)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/16 "2002-04-23T15:11:42Z")
**Andygirl** I have last nights episode on tape, I have to check about last weeks. I can mail it to you if you want. E-mail me… [eklektik21@hotmail.com](mailto:eklektik21@hotmail.com) and it will be on the way tomorrow. And you don’t even have to bat your eyelashes. ---
**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/17 "2002-04-23T15:20:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrVisible \* > **A beating won’t do what a beheading can’t accomplish.** Line of the thread, thus far. And words to live by in the real world, certainly. I ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/18 "2002-04-23T16:04:27Z")
Flunkie: don’t try to run or to fight, or we’ll kill you and your girlfriend! Gunn: Good point. I’ll come alone and surrender, because you’re so scary. Fred, I hate you. Fred: Augh, you must be in trouble! Angel: Bad demon! Kill, kill! Gunn: Dude, that didn’t kill him. Angel: Oh yeah. Hey everyone, beat up the demon! Gunn: Good job Angel. Let’s leave before we see if the demon really dies – we must be safe now! Fred: Good idea. Fred and Gunn: smooches. THE END Eh? Fun episode, but totally stupid behavior at the end. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/19 "2002-04-23T16:27:40Z")
When Gunn started to break up with Fred, I thought they had already reclaimed his soul, and I wanted to smack Angel up the head for not recognizing the dialogue. **Buffy and Angel in Innocence** Buffy: I, I don’t understand. Was it m-me? (meekly) Was I not good? Angelus: (laughs) You were great. Really. (snidely) I thought you were a pro. Buffy: How can you say this to me? **Fred and Gunn in Double or Nothing (If I remember correctly)** Fred: Why are you being so mean to me? … Fred: Was it… me? Gunn: You think? ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100/20 "2002-04-23T18:56:48Z")
Urmph. I liked it. It was tense, yet fun and Joss and the gang are actually letting a couple stay together more than a few episodes - which is a Goddam relief! Beef I had: Is it just me, or is Cordy becoming awefully matronly for a self-centered 22 year-old? Angel sulking: Wow, that was new and different. Nobody sulks like a vampire. Finally, it’s starting to become tiresome how B&A can solve no problems without violence. I know one thing for sure: I’m never moving to California! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-april-22-spoilers/105100.md?page=2)