# Angel season 4 Re Cordy (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 15, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760 "2006-04-15T06:22:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/21 "2006-04-16T01:24:08Z")
> [@The Gaspode](#): > > In a way, I agree. The very final episode rocks and there was some closure. But for me, they didn’t tell a story in S.5. Some of that is the fault of the network, which wanted more standalone episodes and less of an over-arcing storyline. > [@The Gaspode](#): > > The arc about Wolf, Ram & Hart got closure, but the (actually sad) story about Liam, his wicked ways and his path back to redemption\* didn’t move forward in S.5. The entire season was movement on his path. His utter distraction from his original mission, his apparent loss of his destiny to a second vampire with a soul, his loss of Fred and Cordy, his re-dedication to his mission through the destruction of the Circle, the apparent final resolution of the Shonshu prophecy. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/22 "2006-04-16T01:36:10Z")
I really like Cordelia, and I hated what they did to her in season 4 - the whole sordid Cordy/Conner thing. Couldn’t they have done something else, _anything else_, to cover Charisma Carpenter’s pregnancy? But… her final episode in season 5 was great. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/23 "2006-04-16T02:15:08Z")
> [@Eleanor of Aquitaine](#): > > I really like Cordelia, and I hated what they did to her in season 4 - the whole sordid Cordy/Conner thing. Couldn’t they have done something else, _anything else_, to cover Charisma Carpenter’s pregnancy? If they had done something else, there wouldn’t have been able to finish the Jasime/Beast storyline. ---
**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/24 "2006-04-16T03:21:12Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > If they had done something else, there wouldn’t have been able to finish the Jasime/Beast storyline. Yeah, but was there any good reason for Jasmine to be born from Cordelia? Couldn’t she have come from elsewhere? I think poor Cordy really got shafted in Season 4, plus nobody seems to miss her much during the first half of season 5 while she’s in a coma. I read somewhere that the showrunners were pretty pissed at Charisma for getting pregnant – I wonder if they took out some of that anger on the character? The touching farewell episode aside, I was a little upset by her treatment. ---
**Author:** ![AFAIKnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@AFAIKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AFAIKnow)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/25 "2006-04-16T07:12:04Z")
> [@Gladstone](#): > > When did TNT start airing Angel again? It seemed like they stopped last Fall. They used to have a 2-4 episode showing midnight’s every Wed and a 5 am showing every weekday with the two not in order. I was almost through watching the Buffy series on FX when I noticed the midnight shows had run it’s course and started from the beginning so I started recording them. they dumped the Wed shows halfway through and kept the 5am ones that had started from the beginning again and I had to wait a couple of weeks for the episodes to catch up to where I was. I watch it on Comcast Denver area. I don’t know what i am going to do when it ends. Maybe look into Firefox with low expectations and maybe be pleasantly surprised even without Buffyverse. Or maybe Ill wait a year or so and buy the Buffy/Angel dvds and watch them in order. ---
**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/26 "2006-04-16T16:27:12Z")
What **The Gaspode** said in her (his?) first post. I thought it was awful when I first saw it, but it all works in hindisght. I just rewatched S4 this week and I think it may be my favorite season of Angel because of all the melodrama. –Cliffy ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760/27 "2006-04-16T19:41:37Z")
> [@Cliffy](#): > > What **The Gaspode** said in her (his?) first post. I thought it was awful when I first saw it, but it all works in hindisght. I just rewatched S4 this week and I think it may be my favorite season of Angel because of all the melodrama. > > –Cliffy I’m just there for the Wesley, so S4 is just fine with me. (vague descriptions ahead, not so spoilery) He got to work out some Sunnydale issues with a certain lass, had some monster practice with the shotgun, evil lawyer sex, and keep a hostage. Big swing’n ax! Also: Gavin zombie! Braaains! But I really think they could have handled the how-to-hide-CC’s- belly issues better. They could have just hid her behind the front desk for a year and it would have been better. I guess they had to scramble to work it in the story. I’ll spare y’all my rantlet about the gender issues about _Angel_ as a whole, mostly b/c it involves S5, but if I didn’t like the Cordy thing, you can probably guess the rest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angel-season-4-re-cordy-open-spoilers/352760.md?page=1)