# "Angry" Classical Music?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 30, 2003, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450 "2003-05-30T04:00:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![The\_Bad\_Astronomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@The\_Bad\_Astronomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bad_Astronomer)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450/41 "2003-06-02T04:40:13Z")

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A lot of people have said _Mars_ is angry, but I disagree. The piece is very martial sounding, and to me it is too disciplined to sound angry. The 5/4 time makes it even more military, for some reason.

However, I might cast my vote for _Uranus_ in the same suite. It is perhaps more violent than angry, but the lask of the discipline in it is palpable to me. It’s like a wizard run amok.

_Infrenbal Dance_ in _Firebird_ might count too, but again I hear violence more than anger. Hmmm… this is a tougher question than I supposed!

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**Author:** ![klockwerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/klockwerk/32/6475_2.png) [@klockwerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/klockwerk)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450/42 "2003-06-02T05:56:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Bad Astronomer \*  
> \*\*A lot of people have said _Mars_ is angry, but I disagree. The piece is very martial sounding, and to me it is too disciplined to sound angry. The 5/4 time makes it even more military, for some reason.
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> However, I might cast my vote for _Uranus_ in the same suite. It is perhaps more violent than angry, but the lask of the discipline in it is palpable to me. It’s like a wizard run amok.
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> _Infrenbal Dance_ in _Firebird_ might count too, but again I hear violence more than anger. Hmmm… this is a tougher question than I supposed! \*\*

I always thought emotions of violence and war were somewhat accompanied or connected to anger. I must say I agree with you in saying that Uranus is another big firestarter concerning angry emotions (don’t even start thinking about it in that way :p). I’m quite ashamed to forgot mentioning “Night on Bald Mountain”. Now that, my friends, is anger! If you’ve ever watched _Fantasia_, that should give you some big ideas.

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**Author:** ![Gopher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gopher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gopher)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450/43 "2003-06-02T06:34:22Z")

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Someone already mentioned Shostakovich’s String Quartet #8 but I just want to mention it again. It’s dedicated to the victims of facism and war and the bitterness that Shostakovich really burns through. The quartet opens with slow brooding music that repeats the same basic line until BAM! some crazy clown bashes down the door and comes rushing at you with a knife. Or whatever other scary nightmare you have. That is some crazy angry stuff, especially after having played it.

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**Author:** ![captainQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@captainQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/captainQwark)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450/44 "2003-06-02T20:03:47Z")

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how about Dvorak’s ninth symphony?

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**Author:** ![Quasimodal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/57b2e6/32.png) [@Quasimodal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodal)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-classical-music/178450/45 "2003-06-02T20:13:58Z")

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I always thought the Allegretto from Beethoven’s 7th symphony was fairly angry

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