# Angry Muslim crowd torches embassies **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023 "2006-02-04T20:35:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/141 "2006-02-06T15:05:17Z")
These crazy muzzies have, through their violence and hatred, lost most of what there was of political support thourghout europe a nd NA. The muzzie hatred and murders have frankly left even the extreme left and fundie right the only supporters of their fucked up world views. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/142 "2006-02-06T15:06:53Z")
> [@The Flying Dutchman](#): > > I was in Europe in the seventies, briefly though and in my old age my memories are fading. I can’t recall any racial/religious uprisings in the countries that **Gum** has mentioned. Can you please provide a cite. The UK for one lots of problems with institutional racism that led to a lot of civil unrest in the Afro-Caribbean community. Just one of the many instances > [@](#): > > In 1976, however, the festivities were interrupted on the last day. Young blacks harrassed by a police presence numbering 1,600 defended themselves against arbitrary police arrests. At about 5pm rioting broke out, it spread over the whole Ladbroke Grove area and lasted well into the night. > > Over 300 police were injured, 35 police vehicles were damaged, several shops looted and 60 people arrested. [http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/notting-hill-riot-1976/](http://www.libcom.org/history/articles/notting-hill-riot-1976/) There were also riots in Brixton and many other areas of London during that timeframe. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/143 "2006-02-06T15:09:53Z")
> [@Creative\_Munster](#): > > It’s standard practice in the Muslim world for families to arrange marriages between first cousins. Many in the West consider this to be inbreeding. Whether or not it has resulted in a large percentage of them having brain damage as a result, I cant say. But this is a known fact. > **[Incest taboo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest_taboo)** > > An incest taboo is any cultural rule or norm that prohibits sexual relations between certain members of the same family, mainly between individuals related by blood. All human cultures have norms that exclude certain close relatives from those considered suitable or permissible sexual or marriage partners, making such relationships taboo. However, different norms exist among cultures as to which blood relations are permissible as sexual partners and which are not. Sexual relations between relate... It’s not that big a threat. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/144 "2006-02-06T16:45:29Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > … 1… 0. Ignition. Liftoff. > > For many practical purposes, communism was an essentially religious movement. It may have lacked explicitly supernatural doctrines, but the fact is that communism held forth a vision of a bright, shining future, a future of unparalleled peace, prosperity, freedom and brotherhood, that attracted many of its followers into the fold and kept them there in much the same way that the promise of Heaven or the Kingdom of God does for many religious believers. The psychological principle is pretty much the same. That’s certainly one of the things that attracted me to the philosophy and the movement. It’s not at all an unreasonable comparison. Of course, one could say the same about liberalism or capitalism or libertarianism or whatever. Most political philosophies offer (their own) vision of a better future. Have you ever listened to a speech by a US President? ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/145 "2006-02-06T17:20:21Z")
[QUOTE=jjimmI sometimes think that people have forgotten how to do math. Purely hypothetically, let’s imagine that there are 50 million violent Islamic fucknuts in the world. That’s a hell of a lot of assholes - yet there’s more than a billion Muslims in the world. The rioters and terrorists make up less than 5% of that community. The other 95% is not causing trouble.[/QUOTE] The point is (as others here have noted) that the 95% have _allowed_ the 5% to become the public face of Islam either through apathy or empathy. If 95% of a group’s population can’t overwhelm 5%, then they probably aren’t trying all that hard and so, yes, they are complicit in the actions of the minority. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/146 "2006-02-06T17:28:18Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > If someone can see a rosier scenario for the next decade or so, please elaborate, because the future I see is dismal. Sure. The U.S. leaves the Arab nations to their fate and buys oil primarily from Canada, which dramatically increases production to match demand. Americans learn to tolerate four-dollar gas and gradually make a changeover to hybrid vehicles and nuclear power. The corrupt Middle-Eastern governments collapse, leading to a period of starvation and chaos, during which all educated Muslims flee to the West, and by the time anyone can successfully pacify them, it doesn’t matter because the first controlled fusion plants are on-line. I think 2025 will be a very interesting year. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/147 "2006-02-06T18:10:53Z")
Muslims [LIKE BONFIRES](http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-02-06-voa9.cfm), apparently… ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/148 "2006-02-06T18:18:05Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > Sure. The U.S. leaves the Arab nations to their fate and buys oil primarily from Canada, which dramatically increases production to match demand. Americans learn to tolerate four-dollar gas and gradually make a changeover to hybrid vehicles and nuclear power. The corrupt Middle-Eastern governments collapse, leading to a period of starvation and chaos, during which all educated Muslims flee to the West, and by the time anyone can successfully pacify them, it doesn’t matter because the first controlled fusion plants are on-line. > > I think 2025 will be a very interesting year. In the mean time, the decline in demand for oil caused by America’s partial withdrawal from the international market makes oil even cheaper for India and China, who gain another advantage in economic competition with the United States and Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/149 "2006-02-06T18:36:48Z")
> [@zuma](#): > > These crazy muzzies have, through their violence and hatred, lost most of what there was of political support thourghout europe a nd NA. The muzzie hatred and murders have frankly left even the extreme left and fundie right the only supporters of their fucked up world views. Muzzies? WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/150 "2006-02-06T18:51:13Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > The point is (as others here have noted) that the 95% have _allowed_ the 5% to become the public face of Islam either through apathy or empathy. If 95% of a group’s population can’t overwhelm 5%, then they probably aren’t trying all that hard and so, yes, they are complicit in the actions of the minority. Imagine that _hypothetically_ half of them are militant-minded. Where does that leave us? Where do you get your figures? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/151 "2006-02-06T18:53:01Z")
I was trying to quote Jjimmi. The original coding was fucked up. Sorry… ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/152 "2006-02-06T19:25:02Z")
The deaths have started. All or most Muslims, so far. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south\_asia/4684652.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4684652.stm) ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/153 "2006-02-06T19:34:42Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > That’s all right. This doesn’t deserve to get lost in that other thread. > > What could they be thinking? “We’re outraged that you drew a cartoon that implied that we were a violent religion, so we’re going to riot and burn down multiple embassies to prove you right!”? > > There is a major disconnect here. God only knows what it is. It’s the same kind of logic by which they decry the West for having attacked them and bombed their cities…quite justifiably, I agree…but then go ahead and kill foreign professionals who have come to try to put the place back together again. And it doesn’t make any difference if the victims in question are American or British, or if they come from a country whose government opposed the war. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/154 "2006-02-06T19:42:39Z")
Several years ago I posted on this Board that Western Society was in danger. Everybody called me a jackass, because it was _so obvious_ that the Islamic Extremists couldn’t effect us. And I was _obviously_ a racist, or a worrywart, or a Drama Queen, or an Asshole. And now, they’re killing people, & burning embassies. And Iran is building an Atom Bomb. **HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW, DUMBFUCKS!?!** :mad: ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/155 "2006-02-06T20:12:55Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Several years ago I posted on this Board that Western Society was in danger. Everybody called me a jackass, because it was _so obvious_ that the Islamic Extremists couldn’t effect us. > > And I was _obviously_ a racist, or a worrywart, or a Drama Queen, or an Asshole. > > And now, they’re killing people, & burning embassies. And Iran is building an Atom Bomb. > > **HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW, DUMBFUCKS!?!** :mad: LIke I said in the other thread: 😕 The people killed were the idiot protesters when they tried to get cute and attempted to enter the US military bases. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/156 "2006-02-06T20:16:10Z")
This is the biggest bunch of idiots that have ever escaped the asylum. Fucking morons. The mind truly boggles. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/157 "2006-02-06T20:56:09Z")
Who’s the bigger idiot? The one who says the Stupid Thing or the one who follows? [http://counterterror.typepad.com/the\_counterterrorism\_blog/2006/02/fabricated\_cart.html](http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counterterrorism_blog/2006/02/fabricated_cart.html) > [@](#): > > The controversy over the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed is expanding, as more Muslims join the boycott and protests against Denmark and various European newspapers decide to publish the cartoons, mostly out of solidarity with Jyllands Posten and to make a strong political stand. One issue that puzzles many Danes is the timing of this outburst. The cartoons were published in September: Why have the protests erupted from Muslims worldwide only now? The person who knows the answer to this question is Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, a man that the Washington Post has recently profiled as “one of Denmark’s most prominent imams.” > > Last November, Abu Laban, a 60-year-old Palestinian who had served as translator and assistant to top Gamaa Islamiya leader Talaal Fouad Qassimy during the mid-1990s and has been connected by Danish intelligence to other Islamists operating in the country, put together a delegation that traveled to the Middle East to discuss the issue of the cartoons with senior officials and prominent Islamic scholars. > > …. > > On its face, it would appear as if nothing were wrong. However, the Danish Muslim delegation showed much more than the 12 cartoons published by Jyllands Posten. In the booklet it presented during its tour of the Middle East, the delegation included other cartoons of Mohammed that were highly offensive, including one where the Prophet has a pig face. But these additional pictures were NOT published by the newspaper, but were completely fabricated by the delegation and inserted in the booklet (which has been obtained and made available to me by Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet). I would say all of them, but I do think this imam needs to be singled out. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/158 "2006-02-06T20:58:28Z")
> [@Bosda](#): > > Several years ago I posted on this Board that Western Society was in danger. Everybody called me a jackass, because it was so obvious that the Islamic Extremists couldn’t effect us. > > And I was obviously a racist, or a worrywart, or a Drama Queen, or an Asshole. > > And now, they’re killing people, & burning embassies. And Iran is building an Atom Bomb. What do you mean, “Western Society is in danger”? If you mean that western society is vulnerable to being hurt by violence from radical extremists, or because of a nuclear threat from an enemy, well, duh. Of course it is. Western society was vulnerable because of the nuclear threat from its Soviet enemy, too. If you mean that western society is in serious danger of being actually destroyed, then nah, I don’t buy it. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/159 "2006-02-06T21:02:29Z")
I’m afraid they’re going to perceive that there’s a cartoon gap developing, which could unfortunately lead to an escalation of bigger and more powerful cartoons and even someday, dare I say, the secret development of a doomsday cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023/160 "2006-02-06T21:05:22Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > I’m afraid they’re going to perceive that there’s a cartoon gap developing, which could unfortunately lead to an escalation of bigger and more powerful cartoons and even someday, dare I say, the secret development of a **doomsday cartoon**. The first one on [this page](http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/d/doomsday.asp) seems…appropos, somehow. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-muslim-crowd-torches-embassies/343023.md?page=9)