# Angry rant about something I saw on COPS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2003, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765 "2003-03-12T06:18:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/61 "2003-03-13T22:45:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crafter\_Man \* > \*\*We need citizens to constantly remind cops that _we have rights_ and that there are _limits to their authority_. \*\* Yes I’m sure that will go over well in many jurisdictions. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/62 "2003-03-13T23:03:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*Yes I’m sure that will go over well in many jurisdictions. \*\* Oh, so we should live in _fear_. Gotcha. [sub]dumbass[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Riboflavin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Riboflavin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riboflavin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/63 "2003-03-13T23:12:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > No. Please quote where I said it was bad. The most obvious one is where you said that you would punish someone for excercising basic constitutional rights. > [@](#): > > You seem to think that I want these rights done away with. I was saying what I would do in a situation, and questioned why people would want the additional hassle of not cooperating with the police. Some dopers where quick to point some facts out that I was not aware of, and you where quick to point out how much shit spews out of that asshole under your nose. Oh gosh, you mean I called you to task for ignoring what I said and continuing to parade your ignorance? Oh boo, hoo. > [@](#): > > Me making a choice and giving them permission to search my car is blatantly disregarding my civil liberties? Nope, take > [@](#): > > I say “yes search my car”, and they handcuff me and throw me in the back of a squad car for 2 hours. I say “no, you’ll need a warrant”, and they let me go on the spot? > > Did it ever dawn on you that any cop that handcuffs you and lets you rot in the back of his car for a few hours while he rips your car to pieces and jams on your guitars he found in the trunk, will most likely make your life equally as miserable for not consenting to a search? Did it ever dawn on you that making strawmen doesn’t exactly advance your argument? I said nothing about ‘jams on your guitars’. I don’t know what you believe a search of a car is, but it is not just a glance in the trunk and is something that takes time. For ‘officer safety’, the police will handcuff the car’s driver and sit them in the squad car during the search in a number of jurisdictions. Will it happen every time and every place? No. Can it happen? Yes. Is assuming that a search will be quick stupid? Yes. > [@](#): > > In other words If a cop is a dick, you’ll lose both ways. You don’t seem to realize this. Nope, if the cop is a dick then you’re better off refusing the search because he likely has a record of conducting searches on shaky grounds, which makes the case even less likely to stand up in court. If he’s going to plant evidence or beat the hell out of you (which is a bit beyond ‘dick’), then you’re screwed either way. Of course, I find it interesting that you consider a cop just doing his job and following the standard policy in many areas to be a ‘dick’ if he’s not doing what you want him to, but call me a ‘dick’ merely for daring to assert that it’s the job of cops to go after people they have reason to believe are criminals. > [@](#): > > Where did I say this? Is it such an epoch shattering concept that I assumed if you are innocent and have no illegal substances in the car, that consenting to a search will get you on your way faster? It’s a concept not based on fact, since searches do not take zero time. It’s also based on perfect knowledge that I doubt you have, but I’m sure you’ll continue to ignore the repeated examples that have been provided to you by multiple people. > [@](#): > > God your such a dick. Random strangers pawing through private property are in fact officers of the law doing their jobs. God your such a moron. It is not the job of officers of the law to paw through private property on a whim. Officers of the law are still random strangers unless I happen to know them. > [@](#): > > Whether they are doing their jobs correctly or not, I’ll guess, is a matter for the court to decide. Funnily enough, the courts seem to agree that cops searching without probable cause is cops not doing their jobs correctly. Anyway, if the job of cops is up to the courts to decide, why are you declaring that pawing through private property without cause is the job of the police? > [@](#): > > I won’t lie, if I was on a jury, and the guy refused a search of his car and then was busted with some coke in it or whatever, it would appear to me that the person knew it was in there. **THIS WOULD NOT MAKE THEM AUTOMATICALLY GUILTY, BUT IT WOULD MAKE AN IMPRESSION IN THE BACK OF MY MIND** (Just so you didn’t miss that I said that) I’ve now learned that prosecutors can’t make whether they consented to a search or not known, so it seems to be a moot point. > > Btw I don’t want a police state, please keep that in mind. \*\* You say you don’t want a police state, but also say that you think there is something wrong with excercising basic constitutional rights right up there in the quoted material. Whether you say you want a police state or not is irrelevant when you come right out and say that you would punish someone for daring not to consent to a search. You also come right out and call me a ‘dick’ for not considering cops anything other than ‘random strangers’ when it comes through pawing through my possessions for no reasons, so it looks like you’ve got that down to. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/64 "2003-03-14T00:03:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > \*\*You would still have gotten a $500 fine, an hour later, after they got a warrant to search your car. > > \*\* Every argument you made for about 5 posts there made the assumption that the lack of consent is grounds for a search warrant. It most certainly isn’t. So to say it’s a given that if you don’t consent, you’ll be searched anyway (under warrant) is silly. They’d need probable cause, and chances are, they don’t have it. And since this is the pit, YOU SIR ARE AN ASSHAT! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/65 "2003-03-14T00:06:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tristan \* > \*\* > Maybe if the cops weren’t wasting their time with grandstanding losers, they would have gotten their quicker. \*\* Yeah, they’re so horribly concerned with rapists and murderers and real criminals that they’re hasseling some guy because he just might have drugs somewhere. You don’t consent, he has no probable cause, and if he’s a decent cop, that’s that. Whose time is being wasted? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/66 "2003-03-14T00:07:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by culture \* > \*\*Everyone knows that we would all be better off if we never cooperated with the police. Huh? > > I have never understood this “the police are our enemy” thing that seems to be going around. Mybe it comes from people who had some wild teenage years or something. I am not sure. Personally, I like the cops, and I would hate to live in Texas if they were eliminated. Sure, some are idiots, but what group doesn’t have a few? \*\* I got lost, I guess… can you point out to me where someone advocated eliminating all of the police forces? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/67 "2003-03-14T00:08:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*Oh, so we should live in _fear_. > \*\* I don’t recalling saying we should all quake in fear, please quote where I said that. I was actually making a observation, to the effect of it sounds nice on paper, but I’m sure if you start spouting all that shit at a cop on the side of a highway one night, it may not have the desired effect. If you’ve ever worked retail maybe you’ll understand what I’m talking about. People spout off at you, you tend to just tune them out. There is a tactful way to point out that you are aware of your rights, and plan to exercise them, and there is the opposite. The way **Crafter** worded his post gave me the impression of some person yelling at the cop "I know my rights, and you can’t do shit, who do you think you are etc etc (think anyone that gets arrested on Cops). Some people are diplomatic and it could be helpful, but looking around at many of my fellow Americans, I think it might be better for them to keep their mouth shut. Anyway like I said, I don’t think that would go over in _certain_ jurisdictions. A small comment that doesn’t deserve more discussion IMO. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/68 "2003-03-14T00:13:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SenorBeef \* > \*\*Every argument you made for about 5 posts there made the assumption that the lack of consent is grounds for a search warrant. It most certainly isn’t. > > So to say it’s a given that if you don’t consent, you’ll be searched anyway (under warrant) is silly. They’d need probable cause, and chances are, they don’t have it.\*\* Yes I figured that out. I had assumed that refusing a search raised a big red flag, I was wrong. \*\* > [@](#): > > And since this is the pit, YOU SIR ARE AN ASSHAT! \*\* Look at that, 2 tired SDMB cliches in one sentence. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/69 "2003-03-14T00:32:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > **I don’t recalling saying we should all quake in fear, please quote where I said that.** How about: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > Yes I’m sure that [reminding cops of the limits of their authority] will go over well in many jurisdictions. I take that to mean the exercising your civil rights (in some jurisdictions) could get you in serious trouble, when in fact you should be able to exercise those rights without fear anywhere in the country. That said, you don’t have to _obnoxious_ about it, and I think you’re assuming that anyone who refuses a search is some kinda dope-smoking, draft-dodging non-shaving _hippie freak_ out to give The Man a hard time. That’s not groovy. You can refuse a search with a very clear “I do NOT give consent” and leave it at that. If the cop goes ahead and searches anyway, I’d tell the _next_ cop that shows up that I did not consent, and if I was locked up in the police car, I’d keep repeating it, since many police cars are now equipped with video and audio recording devices (or so a show like _Cops_ suggests, anyway). I’d make it very clear to all witnesses that I was not consenting, and I wouldn’t even have to cite the constitution to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/70 "2003-03-14T00:33:12Z")
By the way, you’re an asshat. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/71 "2003-03-14T00:34:30Z")
**Riboflavin** , to be honest I don’t feel like composing some point by point response to your point by point response, they seem to be getting a little long winded for both of us. I will say this though, a lot of my preconceived notions on this subject have been dispelled, so much to the point, that theres no further point in debating my original posts. I’ve been in a car in 2 instances in different states where we were pulled over and consented to search, both without incident. We were not handcuffed, and the searches were over in 10 minutes. I credited having nothing illegal in the car, and consenting to the search as factors that moved the situation along expeditiously. It seemed an appropriate assumption to make, as it was drawn from real world experience. Perhaps I was lucky, who knows, I hope there isn’t a next time to do things differently and find out. The jamming guitar was a joke I slipped in, because the other poster said he had amps and guitars in his trunk. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/72 "2003-03-14T01:17:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SenorBeef \* > \*\*I got lost, I guess… can you point out to me where someone advocated eliminating all of the police forces? \*\* Hey,that’s what _I_ said TEN posts ago… ASSHAT I just wanted to say asshat ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/73 "2003-03-14T01:18:19Z")
Either I’m not speaking correctly or you’re not listening correctly. I will attempt to make myself as clear as possible ok? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > **I take that to mean the exercising your civil rights (in some jurisdictions) could get you in serious trouble,** You took what I said wrong. \*\* > [@](#): > > …when in fact you should be able to exercise those rights without fear anywhere in the country.\*\* I agree 100% I will humbly point out that this doesn’t neccesarily translate perfectly to the real world, I hope you’ll agree. \*\* > [@](#): > > That said, you don’t have to _obnoxious_ about it, \*\* Of course, thats why I said **“Some people are diplomatic and it could be helpful”**. I then cynically added that many Americans are not known for their tact, mentioning most of the people I see on Cops (kind of a joke there har har har, but true, har har har), and they would be best served refusing to talk, or waiting for a lawyer instead of going off on their 4th amedment rights. Now keep in mind obnoxiously giving an officer a sermon won’t get you in _serious trouble_, (which I never said), however I’m sure the officers could come up with some creative ways to _legally_ make your day a bit longer. get it? \*\* > [@](#): > > and I think you’re assuming that anyone who refuses a search is some kinda dope-smoking, draft-dodging non-shaving _hippie freak_ out to give The Man a hard time. > > That’s not groovy.\*\* No I don’t, actually most of them seemed more informed then me on the subject, but a few of them seem to extrapolate a bit too much. \*\* > [@](#): > > You can refuse a search with a very clear “I do NOT give consent” and leave it at that. \*\* Yes I know, in fact that was my fucking point. That a 4th amendment sermon was not neccesarry and could in fact be counter productive in a few cases. Perhaps I shouldn’t have used the word _many_, it’s not what I meant. \*\* > [@](#): > > If the cop goes ahead and searches anyway, I’d tell the _next_ cop that shows up that I did not consent, \*\* Yes letting him know that what the first cop did was illegal, i get it. \*\* > [@](#): > > and if I was locked up in the police car, I’d keep repeating it, since many police cars are now equipped with video and audio recording devices (or so a show like _Cops_ suggests, anyway). I’d make it very clear to all witnesses that I was not consenting, and I wouldn’t even have to cite the constitution to do so. \*\* Same thing I would do. Now that wasn’t so bad was it? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/74 "2003-03-14T01:26:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tony Montana \* > \*\*Hey,that’s what _I_ said TEN posts ago… \*\* Actually, no. You did point out that it was a straw man, but didn’t address that point specifically. > [@](#): > > \*\* > > ASSHAT > > I just wanted to say asshat \*\* Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/75 "2003-03-14T01:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SenorBeef \* > > * * * > > Actually, no. You did point out that it was a straw man, but didn’t address that point specifically. > > Cool. \*\* Yes,correct I re-read what was posted _after_ I had posted DAMN I feel like such an asshat ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/76 "2003-03-14T02:37:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by World Eater \* > **The way Crafter worded his post gave me the impression of some person yelling at the cop "I know my rights, and you can’t do shit, who do you think you are etc etc (think anyone that gets arrested on Cops).** Could you please indicate _where_ in my post I advocated such behavior? When I get pulled over I always treat the LEO with respect. I remain very calm and do not yell. But at the same time I assert my rights to the _ **absolute maximum** _. Here are the reasons: 1. I am communicating to the LEO that I’m not your “Average Joe” push-over. Most people don’t do this, and it tends to throw him off guard. This has the effect of deflating his ego, even if he’s a rogue cop. 2. It has been my experience that most cops _respect me more_ when I assert my rights. Instead of “big cop / little me,” I choose to play on _their level_. 3. Cops tend to be _much more careful_ among those who _understand_ the law and _understand_ their rights. They realize I have a head on my shoulder and that they had better “follow the book.” And they know I’ll be watching. As others have mentioned, refusal to allow a search is not probable cause for a search. It _must_ be that way, else it would be a catch-22 situation. Bottom line is this: I have a hyperactive justice gland and I always assert my rights when I think they’re being violated. I guess it’s just the way I am. If _you_ want to be a gutless push-over, _knock yer self out_. Not me. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/77 "2003-03-14T03:14:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crafter\_Man \* > **Could you please indicate _where_ in my post I advocated such behavior?** My mistake I should have said _wrongly_ assumed. \*\* > [@](#): > > When I get pulled over I always treat the LEO with respect. I remain very calm and do not yell. But at the same time I assert my rights to the _ **absolute maximum** _.[/b Same here. \*\* > [@](#): > > 1. I am communicating to the LEO that I’m not your “Average Joe” push-over. Most people don’t do this, and it tends to throw him off guard. This has the effect of deflating his ego, even if he’s a rogue cop.\*\* I agree, with the caveat that “Average joe” should be treated in the same manner whether he knows his rights or not. I am aware that “Average joe” could get himself in a bind by waiving certain rights. \*\* > [@](#): > > 1. It has been my experience that most cops _respect me more_ when I assert my rights. Instead of “big cop / little me,” I choose to play on _their level_.\*\* Most do, a few don’t, such is human nature. Pity you get one that doesn’t. \*\* > [@](#): > > 1. Cops tend to be _much more careful_ among those who _understand_ the law and _understand_ their rights. They realize I have a head on my shoulder and that they had better “follow the book.” And they know I’ll be watching.\*\* Agreed. \*\* > [@](#): > > As others have mentioned, refusal to allow a search is not probable cause for a search. It _must_ be that way, else it would be a catch-22 situation.\*\* Yes, I know that now. \*\* > [@](#): > > Bottom line is this: I have a hyperactive justice gland and I always assert my rights when I think they’re being violated. I guess it’s just the way I am. If _you_ want to be a gutless push-over, _knock yer self out_. Not me. \*\* I’m hardly a pushover when it comes to anything in my life, so I don’t really worry about these things. The couple of times a car I was in was searched, I was not worried, the cops seemed fine, we let em search their little hearts out (about 10 minutes), and then everyone was on their way. Perhaps in light of this new information I may or may not make the same decision again. Letting them search my car was hardly a gutless decision, and it wasn’t made because I was intimidated by the officers, more that I was 100% sure they wouldn’t find shit. So far I’m 2 for 2. ---
**Author:** ![Kitfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@Kitfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitfox)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/78 "2003-03-14T09:24:04Z")
You aren’t bothering the cop too much when you refuse consent to search. If he really believed you had something worth finding, he’d have found some probable cause. Really, he’s thinking that he wants something to break up the monotony of traffic duty, and this guy might kinda look like he might have something. If you are respectful and refuse, then that’s all there is too it. That’s your right, and that’s why he asks. In fact, if you do consent, and they do find something, you will be ragged from one end of the precinct to the other. By the cops, no less. “Why would you consent if you had something like that in the car? All you had to do is say no and you’d be at home watching TV right now.” ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/79 "2003-03-14T19:43:39Z")
If you can tear yourself away from the pit long enough, please answer some of my [GQs](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169669). ---
**Author:** ![aeropl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f05b48/32.png) [@aeropl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aeropl)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2003, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765/80 "2003-03-14T23:25:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Rooves \* > \*\*You would think these dolts would agree on a fucking story just in case they did get stopped! It’s the same thing every time. Drug runners also tend to drive cars with one tail light out, a tag thats about to fall off, a cracked windshied, expired inspection or the exhuast system dragging fifteen feet behind the vehicle. I know they’re not the brightest but they have these ingeniously crafted secret compartments which hold millions of dollars worth of drugs and they can’t do a fucking pre-trip inspection. \*\* Give 'em a break-- they’re drug addicts for crying out loud:) If they were smarter than they were, they wouldn’t be running drugs. Hopefully. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/angry-rant-about-something-i-saw-on-cops/160765.md?page=5)