# Animal Cruelty on the SDMB, a tale of lies and attempted murder **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2001, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151 "2001-02-05T02:36:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/141 "2001-02-06T23:31:50Z")
BTW grienspace, you are well aware that your 167 deaths per year figure is invalid. That figure is **your** extrapolation of actual DBRF to “if all dogs were x breed”. Now who is misrepresenting the data? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/142 "2001-02-06T23:46:28Z")
**DanielitWD** , you’re right. I was being lazy. An appeal to relevant authority is always in order. However, to say that X _must be_ correct _because_ it was said by a scientist/professor/what-have-you is false. Cecil has been established as a reliable authority, for the most part, but he is still continually challenged. I think he’s not the best example, though, since we all know he’s the font of all that is Right and True, and is infallible. But unless an authority is established _as_ an authority, one can hardly use him to bolster one’s argument. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/143 "2001-02-07T00:28:35Z")
Argument from Authority is invalid when the “authority” really isn’t an authority. Your doctor is a legitimate authority to cite in a thread about STDs. But he has no more authority than any other mope in a thread about Astrophysics. Likewise, the fact that a person has a PhD in Physics does not make them an authority on dangerous dogs. Legitimate authorities would be animal trainers. Cartooniverse: I understand if you’re pissed off at some people. But I haven’t insulted you. Could you please respond and explain why you think I’m wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/144 "2001-02-07T00:33:51Z")
As clear as I can make it, 'toon’verse: > [@](#): > > 1. Pit Bulls do not attack without warning doper experience says otherwise Has nothing to do with you or your expierences. Making an arguement “Pit Bulls do not attack without warning” and justifying it “doper experience says otherwise” is hearsay ( thx for sp help) in it’s purest form. Jimminy Christmas! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/145 "2001-02-07T00:36:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cartooniverse \* > \*\*Oldscratch, let me say this in as plain a manner of English as is possible. Please read this very carefully. > > Consider this my formal request that you not reply to me or address me in any way shape or form any further, either here or anywhere else on any message board anywhere on the internet or via email, snail mail or any other method of contact. > > If you do not honor my request, I will consider any further comments by you directed to me, harrassment, and will report you to the administration and to your ISP. > Thank you, and have a nice day. > > Cartooniverse > > \*\* Cartooniverse … Whatever “legal” requests you may feel you need to make, I must ask that you leave this board out of it. You’re treading on thin ground here. This board is open to anyone who follows the rules who wishes to post, and we will NOT have you dictating who can reply to what. If you don’t want a response, don’t post. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/146 "2001-02-07T00:46:20Z")
**Euty** , I think 'Toon’s post was a response to **Shayna** ’s similar post further up page 3. Maybe not, but the texts are similar. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2001, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151/147 "2001-02-07T00:53:41Z")
but I’m making an intervention here. This thread is just going in circles and is devolving into a fistfight. Enough. your humble TubaDiva Administrator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-cruelty-on-the-sdmb-a-tale-of-lies-and-attempted-murder/53151.md?page=7)