# Animal Rights terrorists win one **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 23, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294 "2005-08-23T17:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/1 "2005-08-23T17:50:14Z")
After a campaign that included death threats, the theft of a family member’s human remains, and slander, animal rights terrorists have succeeded in shutting down a farm in the UK that raises guinea pigs for medical testing. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/england/staffordshire/4176094.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/staffordshire/4176094.stm) This is one of the reasons that I hate animal rightists. This was a family business destroyed by animal rights. A business that raised animals for medical experiments for the benefit of human kind. I’m sure that its closure is being celebrated by PETA and even many HSUS members in the US. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/2 "2005-08-23T18:02:58Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > This was a family business destroyed by animal rights. Their business wasn’t destroyed by animal rights. It was destroyed by violent, law-breaking assholes. The overwhelming majority of animal rights supporters do not engage in these kinds of tactics. There are certainly extremists who do participate, and others who condone them, but you simply can’t condemn everyone who holds that ideological position accountable for what the most extreme adherents do. That said, the behaviour of the animal rights supporters _who are described in that article_ is contemptible. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/3 "2005-08-23T18:04:28Z")
> [@](#): > > The family said they hoped the decision would prompt the return of the body of their relative Gladys Hammond, whose remains were stolen from a churchyard. Pardon me if it takes a little while to actually wrap my head all the way around this concept, that of robbing the graves of family members of those you have a philosophical disagreement with. They’ve clearly become worse than the cause against which they’re fighting. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/4 "2005-08-23T18:04:51Z")
Animal rights extremists (PETA and their ilk) are idiots. In addition, they often seem to be violent, hateful idiots with no concept of how the world works. You don’t want medical testing on animals? Fine. But, if that’s the case, you’d better stop taking asny kind of medication, or going to the hospital at all. Fuck you, you ignorant scum. I hope you can sleep soundly at ngiht knowing you ruined a family’s legitamate business. Hell, odds are, being a smaller, family owned breeding ground, the guinea pigs were treated a Hell of a lot better than at the larger, corporate “guinea pig factories” that will now do more business, since the medical testing companies need their animals from somewhere. It’s actually a step backwards for your moronic cause. And threats of bombs, arson attempts, and brick hurling? These are the kinds of things that can kill people. But it’s ok, cause a few guinea pigs will live. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/5 "2005-08-23T18:12:13Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Animal rights extremists (PETA and their ilk) are idiots. In addition, they often seem to be violent, hateful idiots with no concept of how the world works. > > You don’t want medical testing on animals? Fine. But, if that’s the case, you’d better stop taking asny kind of medication, or going to the hospital at all. Fuck you, you ignorant scum. I hope you can sleep soundly at ngiht knowing you ruined a family’s legitamate business. Hell, odds are, being a smaller, family owned breeding ground, the guinea pigs were treated a Hell of a lot better than at the larger, corporate “guinea pig factories” that will now do more business, since the medical testing companies need their animals from somewhere. It’s actually a step backwards for your moronic cause. > > And threats of bombs, arson attempts, and brick hurling? These are the kinds of things that can kill people. But it’s ok, cause a few guinea pigs will live. :rolleyes: Case of putting animals above people. Wonder if they are ever stricken with cancer, they will refuse any effective medication that was tested on animals. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/6 "2005-08-23T18:13:53Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > And threats of bombs, arson attempts, and brick hurling? These are the kinds of things that can kill people. But it’s ok, cause a few guinea pigs will live. :rolleyes: UK animal right activists really seem to be a different sort of animal :smack: . IIRC, some of them had threatened to put poison in candy bars for some reason or another. Of course they also facilitated the escape of several minks a few years ago not bothering to realize that the minks were going to wreak havoc in the ecosystem that they were not native to. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/7 "2005-08-23T18:15:00Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > Their business wasn’t destroyed by animal rights. It was destroyed by violent, law-breaking assholes. The overwhelming majority of animal rights supporters do not engage in these kinds of tactics. There are certainly extremists who do participate, and others who condone them, but you simply can’t condemn everyone who holds that ideological position accountable for what the most extreme adherents do. > > That said, the behaviour of the animal rights supporters _who are described in that article_ is contemptible. Holy shit, **Metacom** –a post from you regarding animal rights with which I agree entirely! Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/8 "2005-08-23T18:29:33Z")
> [@adam yax](#): > > UK animal right activists really seem to be a different sort of animal :smack: . Seriously. We have some fucking nutbars over here. I used to live right by the New Forest (a national park in the south of England), and while I was there some utter fucking idiots decided that a nearby mink farm deserved liberation. They broke in, let loose hundreds of mink (vicious tubular vermin that happen to have pretty fur), and in the process more or less wiped out the population of the endangered water vole in the south of England. Way to go, guys. Just fucking brilliant. Release non-indigenous predators into a fucking conservation area. “Run, my furbrothers!” Wankers. No, not animal rights people in general; just the morons. ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/9 "2005-08-23T18:35:36Z")
> [@Dead Badger](#): > > Seriously. We have some fucking nutbars over here. I used to live right by the New Forest (a national park in the south of England), and while I was there some utter fucking idiots decided that a nearby mink farm deserved liberation. They broke in, let loose hundreds of mink (vicious tubular vermin that happen to have pretty fur), and in the process more or less wiped out the population of the endangered water vole in the south of England. Way to go, guys. Just fucking brilliant. Release non-indigenous predators into a fucking conservation area. “Run, my furbrothers!” > > Wankers. > > No, not animal rights people in general; just the morons. Did anyone ever confessed to the deed or are they ashamed of themselves? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/10 "2005-08-23T18:38:36Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > Case of putting animals above people. Wonder if they are ever stricken with cancer, they will refuse any effective medication that was tested on animals. No need to wonder. Insulin was iniially harvested from dogs, yet Ingrid Newkirk has no problem using it to keep her alive. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/11 "2005-08-23T18:42:07Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > You don’t want medical testing on animals? Fine. But, if that’s the case, you’d better stop taking asny kind of medication, or going to the hospital at all. Or using condoms, or wearing contact lenses, or using lubricants, or taking insulin, or using tampons, or even shampooing your hair. A world without animal testing would have a hell of a lot more dead and/or maimed humans in it. Although in some cases, I don’t know that that wouldn’t be an improvement. ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/12 "2005-08-23T19:00:45Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > No need to wonder. Insulin was iniially harvested from dogs, yet Ingrid Newkirk has no problem using it to keep her alive. How does she explain that? ---
**Author:** ![BluePitbull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@BluePitbull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BluePitbull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/13 "2005-08-23T19:02:07Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > No need to wonder. Insulin was iniially harvested from dogs, yet Ingrid Newkirk has no problem using it to keep her alive. Although I assume that Insulin was made synthetically by the time she needed it, right? ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/14 "2005-08-23T19:23:31Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > Their business wasn’t destroyed by animal rights. It was destroyed by violent, law-breaking assholes. The overwhelming majority of animal rights supporters do not engage in these kinds of tactics. There are certainly extremists who do participate, and others who condone them, but you simply can’t condemn everyone who holds that ideological position accountable for what the most extreme adherents do. > > That said, the behaviour of the animal rights supporters _who are described in that article_ is contemptible. If it wasn’t for the whole insane idea of animal animal rights, the farm never would have been protested in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/15 "2005-08-23T19:26:23Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > How does she explain that? Something along the lines of PETA Senior Vice President MaryBeth Sweetland, I’m sure. > [@](#): > > I’m an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products – and I have no qualms about it … I’m not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don’t see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals. > –Glamour, January 1990 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/16 "2005-08-23T19:27:36Z")
> [@BluePitbull](#): > > How does she explain that? I believe the rational she’s used in the past is that it’s OK for her to use because she is so vital to the cause of animal rights. :smack: :rolleyes: :wally 😕 :mad: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/17 "2005-08-23T19:34:11Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > If it wasn’t for the whole insane idea of animal animal rights, the farm never would have been protested in the first place. But violent, lawbreaking assholes tend to find reasons to be violent, lawbreaking assholes. If it weren’t animal rights, it would be [anti-globalization](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTO_Meeting_of_1999), [anti-abortion](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/23/MNGMTEBKIA1.DTL&hw=olympic+bomber&sn=001&sc=1000), violence in the name of some radical religion, or something else. It might not have been that specific farm, but it would have been something, somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/18 "2005-08-23T19:41:22Z")
> [@Unregistered Bull](#): > > If it wasn’t for the whole insane idea of animal animal rights, the farm never would have been protested in the first place. So? Something being necessary for a bad act does not mean that it’s responsible for the act: it’s true that without the animal rights ideology this wouldn’t have occured; however, the same could also be said about any number of other things. For example, the farm wouldn’t have been protested if medical researchers didn’t use animals. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/19 "2005-08-23T20:05:01Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > For example, the farm wouldn’t have been protested if medical researchers didn’t use animals. So should medical testing be conducted on violent and otherwise unlawful animal rights activists? ---
**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294/20 "2005-08-23T20:14:57Z")
Hey, STFU. Animals are people too, y’know. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animal-rights-terrorists-win-one/318294.md?page=2)