# Animation Domination - 10/30/11

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 31, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344 "2011-10-31T02:27:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/1 "2011-10-31T02:27:58Z")

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Well, how can I put this? When the best of the bunch was _The Cleveland Show_, you know the prime time cartoons are in trouble.

_The Simpsons_ “Treehouse of Horror #Whatever”: Talk about phoning it in. I raised an eyebrow at Bart’s avatar apparently having sex. I mean, Bart is only ten years old according to the show. Still, yawn to all three stories.

The _Alan Gregory_ debut: Utter crap. Really, really obnoxious. This monstrosity was even worse than that cartoon series the _Arrested Development_ people made, “Stand…Something or Other”. I can’t even remember the title, it was so bad. But it was still better than this thing.

_Family Guy_: Christ, when you’re sitting there wondering why they didn’t name Quagmire’s sister Glenda instead of Brenda, so you could have Glen and Glenda, you know the show sucked.

_The Cleveland Show_: I actually laughed. So the evening wasn’t a total waste.

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/2 "2011-10-31T03:22:37Z")

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i missed the first 10 minutes of family guy so maybe all the good jokes were up front but it doesn’t sound like it. i don’t think i laughed once. i thought famguy’s been having an ok season so far so hopefully this doesn’t continue.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/3 "2011-10-31T03:28:00Z")

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The trailer for Allen Gregory had me excited. The show itself sucked big donkeyballs. Maybe it will get better but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/4 "2011-10-31T03:28:30Z")

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I won’t be able to watch any of em til tomorrow…I’m just popping in right now to say that usually I have to make the Animation Domination thread. Nice to see that somebody else still watches =)

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/5 "2011-10-31T03:33:51Z")

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I really wanted to like “Allen Gregory,” so it’s too bad that it sucked. During the first two minutes I thought it was over the top and obnoxious, then told myself not to let a poor first impression sour things, but it never really picked up, save for one or two ha-ha moments.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/6 "2011-10-31T04:11:10Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> The trailer for Allen Gregory had me excited.

The trailer for Allen Gregory had _me_ thinking “This looks utterly dire. I guess _someone_ must find this appealing, but I sure don’t.” So I didn’t watch it.

Of the others: Simpson’s Treehouse of Horror? Maybe not the worst ToH ever, but certainly down there. Family Guy? If you asked 100 Family Guy fans what they want to see in an episode, I’m sure 99 of them would say “A bunch of domestic violence, and Quagmire killing a guy. Yeah, pretty much an episode full of that.”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/7 "2011-10-31T04:29:17Z")

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I’m not ruling out Allen Gregory yet. I agree that the characters were obnoxious but that doesn’t mean they can’t be funny. I have no problems with a British-style comedy where we laugh at unlikeable characters. That said, you often can’t judge a series by its pilot. The pilot episode’s job is to introduce the characters and situation. Future episodes will tell us if they can make something of it.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/8 "2011-10-31T04:58:31Z")

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I skipped Allen Gregory (that’s the one with the kid, right), it just looked stupid. I didn’t have any intention of watching that since I first started seeing the commercials.  
As for Family Guy, it seemed like a “Very Special Episode” and wasn’t all that impressive.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/9 "2011-10-31T11:06:12Z")

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The trailer led me to believe we were going to watch Allen Gregory learn to interact with normal society but the show itself seems to be saying watch as we turn the entire school into an extension of his homelife. And the relationship between his dad and Jeremy squicks me out.

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**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/10 "2011-10-31T12:25:08Z")

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As a die-hard Simpsons’ fan who falls into the “it’s still better than most stuff on tv” category, even I thought THoH XXII sucked. Where was the scary? Or horror? And the stories seemed so short and cut off. When each one ended, I was like “that’s it?” It was the meh-est episode I’ve seen.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/11 "2011-10-31T13:59:32Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Family Guy? If you asked 100 Family Guy fans what they want to see in an episode, I’m sure 99 of them would say “A bunch of domestic violence, and Quagmire killing a guy. Yeah, pretty much an episode full of that.”

That’s what _I_ would have asked for.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/12 "2011-10-31T13:59:34Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> The trailer for Allen Gregory had _me_ thinking “This looks utterly dire. I guess _someone_ must find this appealing, but I sure don’t.” So I didn’t watch it.

Yep, I saw that trailer and immediately wanted to kick that kid in the balls. It looks like they made a sitcom centered around Kyle’s annoying cousin from South Park.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/13 "2011-10-31T14:43:50Z")

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Good golly, _Allen Gregory_ was ghastly. I felt like the writing staff had come into my apartment and slapped me in the face. Didn’t even make it all the way through the episode.

This leaves _The Simpsons_ and \*Futurama \*as the only cartoons I watch, and even those just when I remember they’re on and not a rerun.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/14 "2011-10-31T22:15:31Z")

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Ok…back with opinions

Simpsons: Holy hell did that suck. I didn’t laugh once, barely cracked a smile even…unless these are parodies that I am either too young or too ignorant to get, I saw absolutely nothing in this episode.

Family Guy: Pretty run of the mill Family Guy episode. I don’t put it past Seth to have an episode focusing on a bad issue (domestic violence) and having a zany resolve (murder). I didn’t think it was that funny, but Family Guy is pretty hit and miss anyway…did Brian even have a line???

Allen Gregory: I didn’t even watch it…thought it looked horrid

Cleveland: Pretty funny…a good halloween episode. I liked the story cuz it was halloween themed but somehow not stupid.

Overall a pretty bad night. Let’s hope for next week and does this mean Bob’s Burgers is gone?!?! I certainly hope not! I loved that!

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/15 "2011-11-01T02:42:15Z")

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The Simpsons was terrible, gone are the days when you can say, at least the “treehouse” ones are still good

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/16 "2011-11-01T03:15:38Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Overall a pretty bad night. Let’s hope for next week and does this mean Bob’s Burgers is gone?!?! I certainly hope not! I loved that!

Yeah, I was thinking that too. I mean, are we swaping a good show like _Bob’s Burgers_ for a chunk of shit like _Allen Gregory_? I will be so pissed! WTF is wrong with the morons at Fox?

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/17 "2011-11-01T03:21:42Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Let’s hope for next week and does this mean Bob’s Burgers is gone?!?! I certainly hope not! I loved that!

Bob’s Burgers was given a second season and Fox recently expanded the order of episodes to a full 22.

But it doesn’t come back until after the holidays.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/18 "2011-11-01T18:13:16Z")

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I laughed exactly one time during the Simpsons, when they spoofed the “DEA” scene from **Breaking Bad**. Then they went on and on with it like a bad SNL sketch and I regretted my laugh.

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**Author:** ![Namkcalb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c89c15/32.png) [@Namkcalb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Namkcalb)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/animation-domination-10-30-11/601344/19 "2011-11-02T01:36:52Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Family Guy: Pretty run of the mill Family Guy episode. I don’t put it past Seth to have an episode focusing on a bad issue (domestic violence) and having a zany resolve (murder). I didn’t think it was that funny, but Family Guy is pretty hit and miss anyway…did Brian even have a line???

I’ve just finished watching this episode, and I have to say, I actually liked it.

They covered a serious issue, and didn’t play the violence for slapstick laughs, they highlighted shortcomings in the law, and I didn’t find the ending too zany, if someone was brutally abusing my little sister then I would try to protect her.

The jokes were funny and the intervention scene was just perfect, from Meg’s “advice” to Peter order and his impatience. I think the seriousness was appropriate, and it shows even more depth to the Q-man.

The first episode of the series was utterly terrible though.
