# Anime: Naked chick posing in credits-really necessary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 15, 2003, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350 "2003-08-15T08:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/21 "2003-08-17T19:12:02Z")
Gotcha, **Kyomara**. šŸ™‚ I am sure THAT authorā€™s a woman since I met her, although it could have been a doppleganger or a very clever disguiseā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/22 "2003-08-17T19:41:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Evil Captor \* > \*\*Well, theyā€™re not as fucked up as far as public displays of sexuality. \*\* Are you kidding? Itā€™s rare to see Japanese couples kiss or even hold hands in public, although this is changing due to Western influence. > [@](#): > > \*\* > I get a lot of other conflicting info about Japanese and sexuality. Like, thereā€™s no rape in Japan, or so little of it as to make it amount to nothing. > \*\* Itā€™s very difficult to get accurate figures on rape in any country, but rape is probably even more underreported in Japan than it is in the US. Given the much lower crime rate overall there probably are fewer rapes in Japan than in the US, but I donā€™t think itā€™s possible to say by how much. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2003, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/23 "2003-08-17T21:34:35Z")
> [@](#): > > 10 paces? Iā€™ve always heard of that in reference to predominantly muslim countries, Iā€™ve never heard of that in Japan. I was reporting from memory something my dad mentioned about a trip he took to Japan maybe 10 years ago. Iā€™ll ask him about it. (If Iā€™m wrong about anything, it may be the specific number 10, but he said something to that effect and it certainly wasnā€™t a Muslim country.) > [@](#): > > I mean, can you see Disney doing cartoon that include explicit sex and nudity, as the creators of Tenchi Moyo did (i.e., ā€œMasqueradeā€), without anyone protesting? No, I canā€™t. I agree with you that the rules are different and that the hangups are not the same. I just donā€™t think thatā€™s the same as saying Japanese sexual culture is less fucked-up. Iā€™d say itā€™s fucked-up in different ways. ---
**Author:** ![MusicJunkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@MusicJunkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MusicJunkie)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/24 "2003-08-18T02:02:08Z")
This doesnā€™t really fit but Iā€™m dying to tell it. Very obvious spoiler to Alien follows: When the creature is about to kill the hysterical girl ( the one that is not Ripley) it shows something like a finger or tentacle going up in between the girlā€™s legs. Than cut and you hear a gasping scream. I was shocked! I was very very drunk when I watched it last night but me and my friend saw the scene 3 times and it was quite clear. Is this the first interstellar rape scene in american cinema? ---
**Author:** ![transitionality](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5e925/32.png) [@transitionality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/transitionality)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/25 "2003-08-18T10:01:40Z")
Itā€™s just fanservice i.e. gratuituous nudity that serves no other purpose than to afford momentary cheap thrills to the targeted 14-to-40 year old antisocial, undersexed male demographic that primarily consumes this sort of entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/26 "2003-08-18T10:41:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Marley23 \* > \*\*I was reporting from memory something my dad mentioned about a trip he took to Japan maybe 10 years ago. Iā€™ll ask him about it. (If Iā€™m wrong about anything, it may be the specific number 10, but he said something to that effect and it certainly wasnā€™t a Muslim country.) \*\* Ah, I see. I was there a year ago with a school exchange program. It might be the difference since that time, or it might just be that I was spending time with a younger (more liberal?) generation. ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/27 "2003-08-18T15:13:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Evil Captor \* > \*\*Like, thereā€™s no rape in Japan, or so little of it as to make it amount to nothing. I think that factor alone puts them WAAAY ahead of us. But thereā€™s also the vending machines that sell panties, the magazine for guys who like to grope women in the subway, etc., the youth fixation some of them have, the fact that many donā€™t have sex with their wives very often (or at all) after they bear children, instead having sex with other menā€™s wives (while other men have sex with their wives). The rules are different there, alrighty. \*\* I find this post ubelievably upsetting. Please try to read with a little more discretion. If any one of the ā€œfactsā€ you list above constitutes the main thrust of any article you read about Japanese sexuality, you need to take that article with a salt mine. Thereā€™s no rape in Japan. Are you dumb? ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/28 "2003-08-18T15:25:41Z")
Sorry, that was way too harsh. Donā€™t post angry. I apologize. But cā€™mon, _no rape???_ Most men have sex with other menā€™s wives? Itā€™s like getting your information on American sexual culture from Penthouse Letters. Please please PLEASE donā€™t believe everything that you read. There are some nutty things in the Japanese sexual underground, but they are not so widespread as to warrant sweeping generalizations. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/29 "2003-08-18T16:03:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyomara \* > **Sorry, that was way too harsh. Donā€™t post angry. I apologize.** Iā€™m not angry, but your previous post was toeing the line, if not over it, for a post outside the Pit. Iā€™m not gonna complain about it to a Mod, but if I hear anything else along those lines from you, I will. **But cā€™mon, _no rape???_ Most men have sex with other menā€™s wives? Itā€™s like getting your information on American sexual culture from Penthouse Letters. Please please PLEASE donā€™t believe everything that you read. There are some nutty things in the Japanese sexual underground, but they are not so widespread as to warrant sweeping generalizations.** I think you should try reading my previous posts with a little more attention, Kyomara. I said I was getting conflicting information about how things are in Japan WRT sexuality. Does that sound like someone who is gullibly accepting everything they read? I do have cites of sorts for my comments. The business about married men and married women in Japan ā€œdatingā€ other spouses is from a series called ā€œWired for Sexā€ on the TechTV cable channel, examining the idea that Japanese sexuality may be the future for other industrialized nations, too. They had interviews with Japanese folk who were doing this. They didnā€™t say that ALL Japanese married folk did this, but they did imply that it was fairly commonplace. The business about no rape in Japan comes from several sources, most of which I donā€™t recall offhand. The most recent one was from a report on the Discovery Channel about modern geishas. It showed them walking to their jobs in traditional geisha costumes at night in the city, and the narrator commented that the geishas felt safe in doing so because there is virtually no rape in Japan. I wonder if the Japanese maintain a crime info database like we do where this stuff could be checked out. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/30 "2003-08-18T17:26:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Evil Captor \* > \*\* > The business about no rape in Japan comes from several sources, most of which I donā€™t recall offhand. The most recent one was from a report on the Discovery Channel about modern geishas. It showed them walking to their jobs in traditional geisha costumes at night in the city, and the narrator commented that the geishas felt safe in doing so because there is virtually no rape in Japan. > \*\* The rape of a woman by a stranger who grabs her off the street is rare anywhere in the world. It is far more common for a woman to be raped by someone she knows. Such acquaintance rapes and date rapes are also far less likely to be reported than a violent stranger rape. The victim often feels ashamed, blames herself, or fears that making a complaint will make her problem even worse. There have been a few cases that made the American media involving American women living in Japan who were raped by men they worked with and were unable to get any help from the local police or their employers. Perhaps a Japanese woman would be taken more seriously than a foreigner, but perhaps not. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/31 "2003-08-18T20:48:37Z")
I Googled and did some research and came up with a couple of quotes: From ā€œResearching the Rape Culture in Americaā€ by Christina Hoff Sommers (available online): > [@](#): > > ā€œCrimes of violence (homicide, rape, and robbery) are four to nine times more frequent in the United States than they are in Europe. The U.S. crime rate for rape was . . . roughly seven times higher than the average for Europe.ā€[60] The incidence of rape is many times lower in such countries as Greece, Portugal, or Japan-countries far more overtly patriarchal than ours. > > It might be said that places like Greece, Portugal, and Japan do not keep good records on rape. But the fact is that Greece, Portugal, and Japan are significantly less violent than we are. I have walked through the equivalent of Central Park in Kyoto at night. I felt safe, and I was safe, not because Japan is a feminist society (it is the opposite), but because crime is relatively rare. Hereā€™s one from an anti-rape organization out of OSU called CEASE: > [@](#): > > The United States has the worldā€™s highest rape rate of the countries that publish such statistics. Itā€™s 4 times higher than Germany, 13 times higher than England, and 20 times higher than Japan. So obviously, there is rape in Japan, but the rape rate is VERY much lower than in the U.S., perhaps because of poor reporting, perhaps because Japan is generally a less violent culture than the U.S. I had to wade through a lot of crappy porn site listings to find these. I donā€™t know whatā€™s in a porn site operatorā€™s mind when he or she includes ā€œrape statisticsā€ in their keywords, but a lot of them do it. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350/32 "2003-08-18T22:06:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by zoid \* > \*\* > However this is from a woman who would mow the lawn topless if I let her. šŸ˜ƒ \*\* Cite? And you wonā€™t let her why? & congrats for having a having a wife whoā€™d mow the grass! All comments of course with šŸ˜ƒ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anime-naked-chick-posing-in-credits-really-necessary/195350.md?page=1)