Any little inaccuracy of hers is fuel for MRA’s. I know she’s made mistakes regarding some games. I’ve told you that she mentions the women that can be killed in certain games, but mentions no where that men are killed too. I provided three links to youtubers who don’t agree with her… all female.
Perhaps you’re right. But I didn’t get funded to do this.
I’ll post it again (repost of #47 in this thread):
She says “The damsel in distress is not just a synonym for “weak”, instead it works by ripping away the power from female characters, even helpful or seemingly capable ones.” This is talking about power/empowerment – ability to take action to control one’s situation/destiny/etc. Not physical strength.
She says “The pattern of presenting women as fundamentally weak, ineffective or entirely incapable also has larger ramifications beyond the characters themselves and the specific games they inhabit.” Note how weak is followed by “innefective or entirely incapable” – as though these are along the same spectrum. This is also about empowerment and being “active” vs “passive”, and not physical strength.
She says “It’s a sad fact that a large percentage of the world’s population still clings to the deeply sexist belief that women as a group need to be sheltered, protected and taken care of by men.” This is clearly not about physical strength.
And in light of the above statements, when she says “The belief that women are somehow a “naturally weaker gender” is a deeply ingrained socially constructed myth, which of course is completely false- but the notion is reinforced and perpetuated when women are continuously portrayed as frail, fragile, and vulnerable creatures.” she is clearly talking about power, empowerment, active vs passive, and the like – not physical strength.
…just asking questions were you?
Pitting Anita Sarkeesian in the middle of a massive and bizarre hate campaign against not only Sarkeesian but other people in the gaming industry is either the work of a clueless idiot or a trolling dickhead. If you really want to discuss her ideas I suggest you open a thread in the gaming forum. But I really don’t know what sort of reaction you were expecting in the pit.
I’m borrowing an idea from Colibri. I sincerely hope no one is honestly engaging this troll.
What happens when a normal person makes a Pit thread and it turns on them? They reconsider their topic. They don’t keep bringing up that same topic multiple times. Dude is posting for the reactions.
So you are concern trolling. How nice…
Maybe she has. You haven’t proven it by anything you’ve posted here.
Argument by youtube goes nowhere with me. Start quoting their claims and arguments. Otherwise don’t waste our time.
I would call myself a feminist. That’s the best I can do for you. I’m not in the gaming business. So…
…dumb threads like these are fuel for MRA’s.
:: subtle swipe at her kickstarter ::
So trolling dickhead it is.
Even if we don’t consider the context, it’s reasonable to assume that she didn’t mean physical strength. When someone says “My boss is a total alien creature”, it’s reasonable to assume this is a metaphor about strange behavior rather than an identification of an extra-terrestrial. Similarly, because it’s widely known (and not disputed by anyone significant) that women are, on average, physically smaller and have less physical strength than men, it’s reasonable to assume that she was talking about strength in one of the many other common ways the word is used.
True confession time: I was expecting this to be more of a two-sided issue* when I saw a pit thread titled simply “Anita Sarkeesian.” I am pretty happy, actually, to find out my prediction was wrong.
*In the sense of there being people who disagree with each other, not in the sense of both sides having equal validity.
Oh, I must be a troll. I mean… in the middle of a culture war, why would I have the nerve to criticize someone?
Are you upset that she actually produced the videos she said she would or because you didn’t get a chance to start your own anti-Sarkeesian video kickstarter scam and scamper off with the money?
That has already been done.
Then you obviously lack the intelligence to fight ignorance. You really should reconsider participating in intellectual pursuits, you’re giving fodder for anti-anti-Sarkeesianists by saying things that are provably false.
These are words you obviously do not know the meaning of.
I’m morbidly curious: what kind of business are you in?
I guess I was wrong to put it in the pit. I will come up with examples of games she’s misrepresented later. I know there were a few, but I want to double check to see if I didn’t miss anything. That perhaps she might be right and I misheard her. And that I put it in the correct context, because you’re all sticklers for that.
The first… because her videos are not what I even expected.
In my view, this post represents progress, or at least the possibility of it. Thanks for that.
Not necessarily; you’ve just completely failed to support your assertions.
I would hope you’d be a stickler for putting statements in the correct context, since that’s the only way to evaluate them.
Even though you haven’t even watched them.