# Ann Coulter Endorses Hillary! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838 "2008-02-01T10:36:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/41 "2008-02-01T21:14:41Z")
She was just interviewed on Cavuto and finished with, Mccain is suppose to be tough on terror yet he has a problem when we drop water down terrorists noses. HAHAHAHAHA! I used to think the same thing when he was whining about waterboarding a year or so back. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnieEnigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JohnnieEnigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnieEnigma)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/42 "2008-02-01T21:17:58Z")
tim314… I have no idea why. They’re ass-aching like anything about mccain and as far as I’m concerned, they’re just throwing a collective tantrum because they really romney to win, apparently. I had no idea until this afternoon that they preferred romney. And what are they gonna do about it. vote for hillary for real? no way. They’re just bluffing. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/43 "2008-02-01T21:19:03Z")
That’s definitely part of it, for a certain crowd. There is a distinct “nativist” strain of late, but its just one of many sub-sets that have made up the Pubbie coalition. I think a broader group dislike McCain for a perceived disloyalty, he ran against Bush and dared to suggest that he Emperor was not as well dressed as he made out to be. But they’ll come around if, as it appears likely, they are stuck with him. Previous statements will be explained away, clarified into oblivion. Guys like Rush will simply pretend they never said anything of the sort, thank you very much. When they own their own private microphone, no one can force them to confront anything unpleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/44 "2008-02-01T21:20:41Z")
[QUOTE=JohnnieEnigma] She was just interviewed on Cavuto and finished with, Mccain is suppose to be tough on terror yet he has a problem when we drop water down terrorists noses. [/QUOTE] There’s some kinda irony here - McCain has survived torture, and he’s being denounced by Coulter, who I would only watch under the threat of torture. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/45 "2008-02-01T21:30:59Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] McCain has a very bad reputation because he’s lying treacherous scumbag who’s incapable of reading the gorram Constitution . . . [/QUOTE] 😕 Eh? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/46 "2008-02-01T21:37:25Z")
We are allied with McCain against Eastasia. We have always been allied with McCain against Eastasia. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/47 "2008-02-01T21:38:50Z")
[QUOTE=tim314] Can someone explain to me why the ultra-conservatives hate McCain so much? He’s pro-life, pro-war, against mandated universal health care, against gay marriage… how is he not conservative enough? Plus he’s an honest-to-God war hero. You’d think they’d be thrilled to come out of eight years of Bush with _any_ kind of Republican candidate who could actually win a general election. [/QUOTE] 1. He opposed the Bush tax cuts 2. He sponsored campaign finance reform (the incumbent protection act) 3. He co-sponsored the education bill with Teddy Kennedy 4. He supports amnesty for illegal immigrants 5. He supports background checks at gun shows 6. He says that the United States “tortures” prisoners. 7. He called Falwell and Robertson “agents of intolerance” 8. He was one of the “Gang of 7” that prevented the GOP from ending judicial filibusters. Those are just what I remember off of the top of my head. I don’t wish to debate any of those issues in this thread, but none of them strike me as “conservative”.. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/48 "2008-02-01T21:39:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > There’s some kinda irony here - McCain has survived torture, and he’s being denounced by Coulter, who I would only watch under the threat of torture. Would you watch her if _she_ were doing the **Scylla** test? BTW, **jtgain** , ISTM that the attempt to end judicial filibusters was a somewhat _radical_ action. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/49 "2008-02-01T21:41:16Z")
[QUOTE=JohnnieEnigma] She was just interviewed on Cavuto and finished with, Mccain is suppose to be tough on terror yet he has a problem when we drop water down terrorists noses. HAHAHAHAHA! I used to think the same thing when he was whining about waterboarding a year or so back. [/QUOTE] [Read](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448717) > [@Scylla](#): > > It’s torture. No question. Terrible terrible torture. To experience it and understand it and then do it to another human being is to leave the realm of sanity and humanity forever. No question in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/50 "2008-02-01T21:46:52Z")
[QUOTE=jtgain] 1. He opposed the Bush tax cuts 2. He sponsored campaign finance reform (the incumbent protection act) 3. He co-sponsored the education bill with Teddy Kennedy 4. He supports amnesty for illegal immigrants 5. He supports background checks at gun shows 6. He says that the United States “tortures” prisoners. 7. He called Falwell and Robertson “agents of intolerance” 8. He was one of the “Gang of 7” that prevented the GOP from ending judicial filibusters. Those are just what I remember off of the top of my head. I don’t wish to debate any of those issues in this thread, but none of them strike me as “conservative”.. [/QUOTE] I dispute that cutting taxes is always a “conservative” position. Many self-identified conservatives are fiscal conservatives as distinct from free-marketeers or small-government conservatives – IOW, their first priority is to avoid deficit spending, even if that requires high taxes – as it always would, in wartime. ---
**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/51 "2008-02-01T21:50:06Z")
[QUOTE=JohnnieEnigma] She was just interviewed on Cavuto and finished with, Mccain is suppose to be tough on terror yet he has a problem when we drop water down terrorists noses. HAHAHAHAHA! I used to think the same thing when he was whining about waterboarding a year or so back. [/QUOTE] Maybe it’s because he’s had to live through it in the past. Seems to me he’d be the reigning expert on torture among this group of candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/52 "2008-02-01T22:43:12Z")
[QUOTE=jtgain] 1. He opposed the Bush tax cuts 2. He sponsored campaign finance reform (the incumbent protection act) 3. He co-sponsored the education bill with Teddy Kennedy 4. He supports amnesty for illegal immigrants 5. He supports background checks at gun shows 6. He says that the United States “tortures” prisoners. 7. He called Falwell and Robertson “agents of intolerance” 8. He was one of the “Gang of 7” that prevented the GOP from ending judicial filibusters. [/QUOTE] 9. Global warming 10. Supreme Court appointments see: [Is McCain a Conservative? -Robert Novak](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/30/AR2008013003212.html?hpid=opinionsbox1) ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/53 "2008-02-01T23:01:42Z")
[QUOTE=Gukumatz] May the great big sea swallow her and burp her dissicated corpse back out. [/QUOTE] Clinton or Coulter? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/54 "2008-02-01T23:04:48Z")
Good question. And how dessicated is _any_ corpse likely to get bobbing about in the briny? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/55 "2008-02-02T01:07:12Z")
[QUOTE=Squink] 9. Global warming 10. Supreme Court appointments [/QUOTE] 1. Supports Federal funding for Stem-Cell research: > **[John McCain on Abortion](https://www.ontheissues.org/Social/John_McCain_Abortion.htm)** ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/56 "2008-02-02T01:28:20Z")
[QUOTE=smiling bandit] Obama (Hi, look at me! I’m charismatic! I have no other good points unless you’re a hard left nutcase!), Clinton (I’m the Queen Bitch and if you don’t support me I will send you to the Gulag!), Romney (I’m not McCain!), and McCain (I’m like a wife beater, and you know you’re coming back to me!) [/QUOTE] I hear these offenses are all legally considered treason in Oklahoma. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/57 "2008-02-02T05:27:57Z")
I’ve heard people making noises about how they’ll vote for McCain/3rd party/flee the country if Obama/Clinton wins the Democratic primary. But for the most part these are either lone voices on the Internet or folks on the fringes. Coulter’s a loony, but she’s more mainstream and more influential to the Republicans than anyone I’ve heard on the Democratic side. I wonder what’s gonna happen if McCain wins. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/58 "2008-02-02T12:59:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Can someone explain to me why the ultra-conservatives hate McCain so much? He’s pro-life, pro-war, against mandated universal health care, against gay marriage… how is he not conservative enough? Plus he’s an honest-to-God war hero. You’d think they’d be thrilled to come out of eight years of Bush with any kind of Republican candidate who could actually win a general election. A lot of conservatives are still too much in love with Reagan. And not the real Ronald Reagan. They’re pining for the Reagan of their rosy-colored memories. Nobody can compete with that. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/59 "2008-02-02T13:15:16Z")
I think a lot of this current talk among conservative pundits is bluff. McCain did waver at one point and tried to suck up to the conservative establishment. But he then decided to follow a more moderate campaign. Now it’s working and he’s the Republican front runner. So the conservative pundits are trying to bring him back to the Dark Side. They’re threatening to speak out against him in hopes that he will submit. They want him to rejoin their movement and publically show he respects their wisdom. If McCain does back down and seeks their blessing, they win regardless of whether or not McCain wins - they’ll have shown that a Republican nominee needs conservative approval. The next big gamble will be what will they do if McCain defies them? Will the conservative pundits back down instead and support McCain so they can at least claim they were a part of the winning side if he gets elected? Or will they openly break with McCain and hope he loses, thereby showing future Republican candidates that they need conservative backing? Because the worst-case scenario for the conservative media is if they break with McCain and he wins anyway. If that happens, the conservative media will have shown it’s no longer a major power in American politics. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838/60 "2008-02-02T13:29:09Z")
One wonders if the folks screaming now that there’s no way they’d vote for Hillary, will feel the same way come election day if she get’s the nom and not Obama. As for conservatism being dead politically, well, truthfully, we _haven’t_ had a conservative President in ages. We’ve had Presidents who’ve _called_ themselves conservative, but, in fact, have been everything _but_ conservative. 'Tis a shame, too, as a _real_ conservative President wouldn’t have done the kind of damage to this country that the supposed conservative ones have done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-coulter-endorses-hillary/435838.md?page=4)