# Ann Romney's RNC Speech

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 29, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005 "2012-08-29T04:21:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/101 "2012-08-31T16:50:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Thanks you for yet another of your valuable contributions to SDMB debates. “Kool-aid” and “ilk” it one short post. Your value to the boards is incalculable.

This isn’t a debate forum. I’m happy that you can see how ridiculous that sort of talk can get when it comes from the left. If only you could hear how ridiculous your own rhetoric sounds. Continuing to flog someone for something she didn’t say is a typical tactic of the present political climate. If this sort of non-discourse continues in WDC (and I have no reason to doubt otherwise), our country can only continue to stagnate.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/102 "2012-08-31T17:32:29Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> This isn’t a debate forum.

It’s not? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/103 "2012-08-31T17:57:41Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> It’s not? :dubious:

Apparently not when **Magellan** shows up. Debate implies that you will debate what a person actually said not what you would like to imagine they said.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/104 "2012-08-31T18:29:19Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Debate implies that you will debate what a person actually said not what you would like to imagine they said.

Well, when you’re defending people who debate empty chairs (and barely eke out a draw), that’s not such a tough standard to meet.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/105 "2012-09-01T00:52:38Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> No, because you overstate the case in his defense. Also, I mentioned insider trading as a stock broker, as well. Which, in my opinion, is even worse then the bootlegging he is guilty of.

I’ll concede that the difference between a Kennedy and his wealth vs a Romney and his wealth is the Kennedy policy is there to help the poor, the Romney policy is there to benefit the wealthy.

Nobody cares is someone is wealthy, they care if the policy they advocate helps to advance all or just the privileged

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/106 "2012-09-01T01:08:36Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> BULLSHIT.
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> One of my friends was diagnosed with breast cancer. Another struggles with MS. Both of their struggles have very little in common with Ann Romney’s. Romney will never have to worry about losing her job because she can’t work. Romney will never have to worry about losing her health care access because she can’t work. She will never have to apply for food stamps because she can’t earn enough to feed herself because she’s sick. Ann Romney will never have to beg a friend to drive her to treatments because she’s too sick or ask that friend to watch her kids because she’s too poor to afford a babysitter because all her money went for co-pays that week.
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> Why can’t you admit that? And why can’t Ann Romney admit it either? It isn’t petty to point out how Ann Romney’s money shields her from the reality that many women with breast cancer or MS face. It’s certainly not petty to be infuriated that she tells us to vote for her husband who will only make things worse for said cancer and MS victims.
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> Are we not even allowed to have an honest conversation about these facts?

Not allowed because it makes the neat argument of trickle down economics messy. The only thing the rich and poor have in common with disease is the disease. You both may die of the disease but the struggle is profoundly different.  
That’s why it’s insulting for an insanely rich person to say they are one and the same with the very poor. The rich have no concept of what it’s like to be humiliated in the face of struggle.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ann-romneys-rnc-speech/633005/107 "2012-09-01T02:18:18Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Thanks you for yet another of your valuable contributions to SDMB debates. “Kool-aid” and “ilk” it one short post. Your value to the boards is incalculable.

Must…resist…hilarious-but-possibly-rule-bending-response.

_Whew._

Thanks for the set up, all the same, **magellan01**. You’re a very generous interlocutor.

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