# Anne Hathaway spoiled the ending of Les Misérables on The Daily Show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 8, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476 "2013-01-08T13:58:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/21 "2013-01-08T14:56:26Z")
There was some recent anger in the Hobbit fandom from someone who had read the book so long ago, she’d forgotten that Thorin Oakenshield, Kili, and Fili all die in the end, and was pissed that a fanfiction spoiled the third movie for her. General consensus was that she should get over it, and not read fanfics for 70 year old stories if she doesn’t want to know how they end. Still, giving away the ending on a TV show is a bit different. I have a feeling the studio wasn’t exactly thrilled with Miss Hathaway. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/22 "2013-01-08T15:07:07Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Just don’t spoil the ending of _Jesus Christ Superstar_ for me. I’m supposed to see _Romeo and Juliet_ next week for the first time; I like stories with happy endings. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/23 "2013-01-08T15:17:43Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > When a work of art is that old, it’s sort of expected that it is so ingrained in the public’s consciousness that even if you haven’t actually seen it, chances are you have heard the ending already. Sort of like the ending of The Sixth Sense or Luke’s relationship with Darth Vader. I didn’t know who died in Les Mis before seeing the Liam Neeson movie, or that Darth was Luke’s father before seeing Empire (or about the ending of Sixth Sense, but I saw that one when it came out, so doesn’t really count). You’re not born knowing this stuff, and I think even for the really famous ones plenty of people manage to make it to the original film/book/etc without spoilers. Plus, its not like deaths in Les Mis are anywhere close to the Skywalker family tree as far as pop-culture presence goes. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/24 "2013-01-08T15:18:57Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Also, the OP’s spoiler is somewhat ironically visible on mouseover. Whoops. Maybe a passing mod can add some spaces, if they think it’s worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/25 "2013-01-08T15:21:03Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I didn’t know who died in Les Mis before seeing the Liam Neeson movie, or that Darth was Luke’s father before seeing Empire (or about the ending of Sixth Sense, but I saw that one when it came out, so doesn’t really count). You’re not born knowing this stuff, and I think even for the really famous ones plenty of people manage to make it to the original film/book/etc without spoilers. > > Plus, its not like deaths in Les Mis are anywhere close to the Skywalker family tree as far as pop-culture presence goes. Hey I knew about Darth but managed to totally not discover the identity of the Emperor until I watched the movies. I really didn’t know, and I am VERY good at avoiding spoilers most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/26 "2013-01-08T15:23:47Z")
Gosh, who could predict that a movie called “The Miserable Ones” would have a downer ending? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/27 "2013-01-08T15:25:19Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Hey I knew about Darth but managed to totally not discover the identity of the Emperor until I watched the movies. I really didn’t know, and I am VERY good at avoiding spoilers most of the time. Javert: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father, did he, Jean Valjean? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/28 "2013-01-08T15:26:12Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > Just don’t spoil the ending of _Jesus Christ Superstar_ for me. The company exec loves his fresh sound, says “kid, you got the goods,” and offers him a recording contract on the spot. Whoops. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/29 "2013-01-08T15:27:22Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Gosh, who could predict that a movie called “The Miserable Ones” would have a downer ending? It doesn’t. It has a downer beginning and middle, but in the end the guy gets the girl and they ride off into the coucher du soleil. ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/30 "2013-01-08T15:28:32Z")
I’ve told this one before, but during college I was working at a video store and a woman came in to rent Oliver Stone’s “JFK.” As I’m ringing her up, I jokingly lean over and in a hushed voice say, “Ya know he dies in the end, right?” She was NOT amused. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/31 "2013-01-08T15:28:54Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I didn’t know who died in Les Mis before seeing the Liam Neeson movie, or that Darth was Luke’s father before seeing Empire (or about the ending of Sixth Sense, but I saw that one when it came out, so doesn’t really count). You’re not born knowing this stuff, and I think even for the really famous ones plenty of people manage to make it to the original film/book/etc without spoilers. > > Plus, its not like deaths in Les Mis are anywhere close to the Skywalker family tree as far as pop-culture presence goes. Yeah, but the deaths in Le Mis are nowhere close to that shocking. You know they are coming and Valjean’s death really is equivalent to Dorothy going home at the end of _The Wizard of Oz_, it’s just the close of the story. Fantine is more or less only in the story so she can die, it’s the reason for her existence as a character (sort of). ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/32 "2013-01-08T15:29:17Z")
I’m still mad at Tom Stoppard for spoiling Hamlet in the title of his play, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/33 "2013-01-08T15:30:01Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > On the other hand, I’m not fond of anybody giving out spoilers, for anything, before the freakin thing’s on DVD. So the ending can’t be discussed openly until **this version** of the movie is on DVD? The [various other DVDs available](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_18?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=les+miserables+dvd&sprefix=les+miserables+dvd%2Caps%2C163&rh=n%3A2625373011%2Ck%3Ales+miserables+dvd) don’t matter? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/34 "2013-01-08T15:35:42Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Yeah, but the deaths in Le Mis are nowhere close to that shocking. You know they are coming and Valjean’s death really is equivalent to Dorothy going home at the end of _The Wizard of Oz_, it’s just the close of the story. Fantine is more or less only in the story so she can die, it’s the reason for her existence as a character (sort of). I agreeish. I think that’s a much better defence of the Hathaway’s spoilering then “its 150 years old” anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/35 "2013-01-08T15:36:12Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > So the ending can’t be discussed openly until **this version** of the movie is on DVD? The [various other DVDs available](http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_18?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=les+miserables+dvd&sprefix=les+miserables+dvd%2Caps%2C163&rh=n%3A2625373011%2Ck%3Ales+miserables+dvd) don’t matter? From my earlier response: > [@Anaamika](#): > > I don’t know. In MY perfect world, I’d prefer that no one spoiled anything, to be honest, without appropriate warning. I don’t like spoilers one bit. But I understand my perfect world does not exist. > > I’d like to think that the actors directly involved in the movie could learn to shut their fat traps, however. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/36 "2013-01-08T15:38:36Z")
This spoilerphobia has nothing to do with ruining a movie (if knowing the ending ruins a movie, no one would ever watch a movie more than once), and all to do with snarky phony outrage in order to get attention. I’ve known the endings of _The Crying Game, Psycho, King Kong, It’s a Wonderful Life_\*\*\* and dozens of films made from books I already have read and I still enjoyed them just as much. And a [recent study](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14521627) indicates this is true of everyone. Spoilers don’t necessarily ruin the experience, and the current moral outrage about them is ridiculous. \*The **National Lampoon** had an article in the 1970s called “spoilers,” which gave endings for about a hundred films and popular books. I read it many a time and before I saw quite a few of the works. \*\*I had read the original story first. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/37 "2013-01-08T15:38:45Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I don’t know. In MY perfect world, I’d prefer that no one spoiled anything, to be honest, without appropriate warning. I don’t like spoilers one bit. But I understand my perfect world does not exist. > > I’d like to think that the actors directly involved in the movie could learn to shut their fat traps, however. How does that work though? Is your only enjoyment of a story the fact that you didn’t know how the ending turned out? > [@RealityChuck](#): > > This spoilerphobia has nothing to do with ruining a movie (if knowing the ending ruins a movie, no one would ever watch a movie more than once), and all to do with snarky phony outrage in order to get attention. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/38 "2013-01-08T15:39:07Z")
> [@h.sapiens](#): > > I’m still mad at Tom Stoppard for spoiling Hamlet in the title of his play, > > Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead 😉 There was an anecdote that Toots Shor, the New York restaurant owner, used to tell about himself. Somebody gave him tickets for _Hamlet_, the kind of play he would never have gone to on his own. He said, “I bet I was the only one in the audience who went back in after intermission just to find out how it came out!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/39 "2013-01-08T15:41:55Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > Was that cool what she did? Do you care? Being upset about learning that Fantine dies is like being upset at learning that Uncle Soondead and Aunt Gonnabiteit don’t survive A New Hope. It’s preliminary action that kicks off the main plot and the internal struggle of Valjean regarding what it means to be moral. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476/40 "2013-01-08T15:42:57Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I’ve known the endings of _The Crying Game, Psycho, King Kong, It’s a Wonderful Life_\*\*\* and dozens of films made from books I already have read and I still enjoyed them just as much. And a [recent study](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14521627) indicates this is true of everyone. Spoilers don’t necessarily ruin the experience, and the current moral outrage about them is ridiculous. > . Fair point. The twist ending to Planet of the Apes is [given away on the movie posters and video/DVD/BluRay/Laserdisc covers](http://www.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/planet_of_the_apes.jpeg). (THE LINK SPOILS THE ENDING OF PLANET OF THE APES, DON’T CLICK IT IF YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW!!) It hasn’t stopped anyone from seeing the movie for the first time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-hathaway-spoiled-the-ending-of-les-miserables-on-the-daily-show/646476.md?page=3)