# Anne Heche goes nuts, gets roasted

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 6, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168 "2022-08-06T01:43:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/1 "2022-08-06T01:43:01Z")

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She crashes her car into a garage, drives away while people are trying to help her, speeds down the street and plows into a house, where the car, the house, and Anne Heche all catch fire. The house and car didn’t survive. Anne Heche _might_.

> **[Anne Heche Severely Burned In Fiery Car Crash, New Video Shows Her Speeding](https://www.tmz.com/2022/08/05/anne-heche-crashes-car-home-burned-fire/)**
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> Anne Heche was involved in a wild crash in L.A. Friday, and has been taken away by ambulance in a stretcher.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/2 "2022-08-06T01:46:12Z")

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Jeez, that’s awful.

She has a history of strange behavior, possibly mental illness.

> **[Anne Heche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Heche#Mental_illness)**
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> Anne Celeste Heche (/heɪtʃ/ (listen) HAYTCH; May 25, 1969 – August 11, 2022\[a\]) was an American actress, known for her roles in a variety of genres in film, television, and theater, receiving numerous accolades, including a National Board of Review Award and multiple Emmy Awards.
> Heche's professional acting career began on the soap opera Another World (1987–1991) portraying the twins Vicky Hudson and Marley Love, for which she received a Daytime Emmy Award in 1991. Her acting profile rose dur...

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/3 "2022-08-06T01:50:41Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> She crashes her car into a garage, drives away while people are trying to help her, speeds down the street and plows into a house, where the car, the house, and Anne Heche all catch fire. The house and car didn’t survive. Anne Heche _might_.

This, plus your thread title, makes it seem as though you’re mocking her. Hopefully I’m just reading it wrong.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/4 "2022-08-06T01:54:49Z")

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I didn’t realize Ms. Heche was still alive.

Regardless, with parents like this, I’m not surprised that her personal life has been a trainwreck.

> **[Nancy Heche](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Heche)**
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> Pages for logged out editors learn more
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> Nancy Abigail Baker Heche (/heɪtʃ/; née Prickett, born March 10, 1937) is an American activist. She is the mother of actress Anne Heche. In 2006, she published a memoir, The Truth Comes Out.
> Prickett is the daughter of Marietta Susan (Tukey) and Richard Carleton Prickett. As a child, she attended a Methodist church and was raised in Indiana.

> **[The Truth Comes Out: When Someone You Love Is in a Same-Sex Relationship: Heche,...](https://www.amazon.com/Truth-Comes-Out-Same-Sex-Relationship/dp/0830739122)**
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> The Truth Comes Out: When Someone You Love Is in a Same-Sex Relationship \[Heche, Nancy\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Truth Comes Out: When Someone You Love Is in a Same-Sex Relationship

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/5 "2022-08-06T01:56:11Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> This, plus your thread title, makes it seem as though you’re mocking her.

If she was drunk or on drugs, _absolutely_ I was mocking her. I have no sympathy for people who destroy their lives through stupidity. If she is genuinely mentally ill, not so much.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/6 "2022-08-06T02:27:44Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If she was drunk or on drugs, _absolutely_ I was mocking her. I have no sympathy for people who destroy their lives through stupidity. If she is genuinely mentally ill, not so much.

That is not how intent or communication works.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/7 "2022-08-06T02:29:45Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> If she was drunk or on drugs, _absolutely_ I was mocking her. I have no sympathy for people who destroy their lives through stupidity.

Is that how Substance Use Disorder works ?

I thought it was medical and that there was … y’know … science and stuff around it.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/8 "2022-08-06T02:39:00Z")

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Sorrow for a mentally ill person apparently out of control and possibly trying to commit suicide. Glad she didn’t T-bone and kill a driver in front of the house she hit. She must have been going pretty fast to embed her car inside a house. They were able to get the occupant and pets out of the house.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/9 "2022-08-06T02:41:20Z")

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Bipolar?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/10 "2022-08-06T02:44:00Z")

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Previous user of Ecstasy which is an hallucinogen. I just had a dime size burn on my finger and that was painful enough. Imagine being trapped in a burning car.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/11 "2022-08-06T02:52:26Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> This, plus your thread title, makes it seem as though you’re mocking her.

This is the Dope, so I expect a huge dose of cleverness with the news here.

I thought “nuts”/“gets roasted” was creative enough that I, for one, couldn’t resist it, even though I have a lot of sympathy for Ms. Heche.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/12 "2022-08-06T05:42:06Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> They were able to get the occupant and pets out of the house.

Not that I don’t believe you, but where did you hear/read that? I have yet to see anything online that even says “It’s not yet known if anyone was inside the house,” much less what you said.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/13 "2022-08-06T05:54:11Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Is that how Substance Use Disorder works ?

You know how I avoid “substance use disorder”? I never use “substances”. Drug abusers _choose_ to put drugs in their bodies. Lay down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/14 "2022-08-06T06:03:43Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> You know how I avoid “substance use disorder”? I never use “substances”.

That’s very sensible of you. And I’m sure you avoid anorexia by eating, and depression by just remembering that things aren’t so bad. It’s astonishing that other people don’t implement these obvious solutions.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/15 "2022-08-06T06:10:24Z")

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Wow! There was a high-speed chase that ended just like this in my neck of the woods today.

Gotta love a firey car crash…

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/16 "2022-08-06T06:16:00Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> That’s very sensible of you. And I’m sure you avoid anorexia by eating, and depression by just remembering that things aren’t so bad.

People need food to live, and people can’t choose their brain chemistry. But you do _not_ need alcohol, and you do _not_ need any other recreational drugs. It is not the same thing. I have never once in my life used any of them. (So I’m perfectly qualified to cast stones.)

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/17 "2022-08-06T06:18:25Z")

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Do I hear Nancy Reagan?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/18 "2022-08-06T06:37:04Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> But you do _not_ need alcohol, and you do _not_ need any other recreational drugs. It is not the same thing. I have never once in my life used any of them.

Don’t you think it’s a little odd that you have so confidently decided that some things are perfectly under someone’s volitional control and no more difficult than deciding what TV channel to watch, whereas other things are attributable to

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> people can’t choose their brain chemistry

I mean, a suicidal person does not _need_ to take sleeping pills or shoot themselves in the head any more than an alcoholic needs to take a drink. Why don’t _they_ just not do it?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/19 "2022-08-06T06:41:42Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Don’t you think it’s a little odd that you have so confidently decided that some things are perfectly under someone’s volitional control

Unless someone physically forces drugs into your mouth or veins (or hides it in your food or drink) taking that first hit is absolutely “under your volitional control”. I’ve never once heard of a drug that shoots out mind beams and drags you, kicking and screaming, to use it that first time against your will.

_ **You will never become a drug addict if you never use drugs the first time.** _

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-heche-goes-nuts-gets-roasted/969168/20 "2022-08-06T06:49:46Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> You will never become a drug addict if you never use drugs the first time.

So your deeply compassionate model of treatment for drug addiction is to simply write all addicts off and refuse to countenance the possibility that they might need or deserve help, because they are fully accountable for the _first_ time they took drugs.

How do justify taking the same attitude toward alcoholics, when drinking alcohol is a normal social activity, and addicts don’t _know_ that this lies in their future when they take their first drink?

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