# Anne Shirley--grrrrrrrrrr

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 8, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476 "2009-12-08T18:47:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/1 "2009-12-08T18:47:58Z")

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Watched Murder, My Sweet last night. Anne Shirley is a knockout. Wow! I wish Eve was still around because I can barely find any pictures of her.

I love it when a 30-40s actress I’ve never noticed before pops up and is just gorgeous. She is amazing in that movie. Just stunning.

As an aside, damn they did terrible stuff to women’s hair back then. There is a scene at a nightclub where I couldn’t recognize her because of the awful hairdo. Claire Trevor had a couple tortuous hairstyles in the movie as well.

Here’s the best pic I could find.

[http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI0NjM1MzI4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTI4NjQ2.\_V1.\_SX302\_SY400\_.jpg](http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI0NjM1MzI4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTI4NjQ2._V1._SX302_SY400_.jpg)  
Here’s another with some terrible hair.

[http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/159/117159-anne-shirley-picture.htm](http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/159/117159-anne-shirley-picture.htm)

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/2 "2009-12-09T14:46:52Z")

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Am I the only one who was expecting an Anne of Green Gables thread here?

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/3 "2009-12-09T14:50:56Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Am I the only one who was expecting an Anne of Green Gables thread here?

…No. ☹

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/4 "2009-12-09T14:55:31Z")

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There’s another Anne Shirley? Are you sure?

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/5 "2009-12-09T14:59:32Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Am I the only one who was expecting an Anne of Green Gables thread here?

Actually, the Anne Shirley here did, in fact, play Anne Shirley in this version of [Anne of Green Gables](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024831/).

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/6 "2009-12-09T15:01:07Z")

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OP: linky one no worky.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/7 "2009-12-09T15:10:25Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Am I the only one who was expecting an Anne of Green Gables thread here?

Most certainly not.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/8 "2009-12-09T16:19:39Z")

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> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#):
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> Actually, the Anne Shirley here did, in fact, play Anne Shirley in this version of [Anne of Green Gables](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024831/).

She changed her name after/while playing the role.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/9 "2009-12-09T16:20:33Z")

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Man, we’re just a bunch of nerds here aren’t we?

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/10 "2009-12-09T16:36:03Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Man, we’re just a bunch of nerds here aren’t we?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

_heads back to work on javascript bugs while wearing her EverQuest t-shirt_

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/11 "2009-12-09T18:54:27Z")

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Nerds they may be, but not in **Athena** ’s narrow, late-capitalist sense of technogeeks (producing/consuming nerds, ie: cool nerds).

However, there’s definitely a sense of the outgroup at work.

A good cultural studies theorist could probably quote Susan Sontag and a few other authors to make a reasonably airtight case that a straight male who crushes on 1930s/40s film actresses is - in some cultural affinity sense anyway - actually gay.

Such a theorist, however, would deserve a resounding slap upside the head.

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**Author:** ![RachelChristine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RachelChristine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RachelChristine)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/12 "2009-12-09T22:18:44Z")

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I wondered on seeing the thread title if it was Anne of Green Gables or the actress. I haven’t seen that version of the movie in 10 or 12 years, but I always thought it was interesting that she changed her name when she got the part. Her real name was Dawn O’Day (which I knew without looking, but did double check it – sad).

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/13 "2009-12-09T22:50:00Z")

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She was very pretty (and touching) in _Stella Dallas_, if you haven’t seen it – definitely check it out. Worth it for Barbara Stanwyck’s performance.

Though I’ll add that Megan Follows (the one true Anne Shirley for me!) is quite lovely too.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/14 "2009-12-10T01:22:43Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> She changed her name after/while playing the role.

She also auditioned for GWTW (along with every other actress and wannabe actress in the world), which makes me wonder if she’d have become Scarlett O’Hara if she got it.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/15 "2009-12-10T01:24:25Z")

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> [@Athena](#):
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> Am I the only one who was expecting an Anne of Green Gables thread here?

Anne- with an “e”. 🙂 Yup, I was too.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/16 "2009-12-10T01:32:27Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Anne- with an “e”.

Not Liza with a Z (but either way she’s a redhead orphan)

Anne Shirley was one of the wealthiest women in Hollywood in later years, though not so much for investments or business acumen as marriage. Her second husband was a successful producer/writer/director who happened to be the favorite nephew of [childless Hearst concubine] Marion Davies and was her primary heir. (Her estate was in the many millions and that was in 1961 money, and he managed it well.)

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/17 "2009-12-10T01:51:58Z")

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Simply reading this may have kicked me into another reread of the Green Gables books. It’s about time anyway, and I’ve been playing with the idea, but now I think I gotta go find them.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/18 "2009-12-10T02:00:27Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Though I’ll add that Megan Follows (the one true Anne Shirley for me!) is quite lovely too.

grrrrrrrrrr

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/19 "2009-12-10T20:17:53Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Though I’ll add that Megan Follows (the one true Anne Shirley for me!) is quite lovely too.

She was so striking looking with that “dead English woman” skin and red hair that I’m surprised she never became a much bigger star. According to her wiki she lives in both Toronto and L.A. so apparently she and/or her life-partner (male) are doing pretty well financially, so maybe she didn’t want to be bigger and wanted to be a stay-at-home mom, because I think that with the right agent and some drive she’d have been at least as big as a Kate Winslet or Gwyneth Paltrow.

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**Author:** ![MarkF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@MarkF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarkF)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anne-shirley-grrrrrrrrrr/520476/20 "2009-12-10T20:43:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I wish Eve was still around

As someone who has had very intermittent access, I’m not sure what this means exactly. Where is Eve?

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