# Annie Coulter Does It Again! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 23, 2002, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343 "2002-09-23T21:13:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/21 "2002-09-24T01:28:32Z")
It’s all a plot by the liberal media. To cheapen the intellectual image of the Republican Party they shower media attention on the Ann Coulters and Rush Limbaugh’s, and completely ignore the compelling and insightful conservative spokespersons like Harmon Fensternagle! Oh? Never heard of Harmon Fensternagle? AH-_HA!_ ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/22 "2002-09-24T01:35:18Z")
Either that, or Ann’s a closet liberal, trying to make conservatives look bad. For that matter-I don’t think there’s anything “conservative” about Ann, in the true definition of the word. She’s a radical. ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/23 "2002-09-24T01:49:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Derleth \* > \*\*“2112”? \*\* A wildly popular album by “Rush.” The _other_ Rush. ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/24 "2002-09-24T02:02:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \*Oh? Never heard of Harmon Fensternagle? > AH-_HA!_ \*\* How about William McGowan? He wrote _Coloring the News_, a much, much better book than _Slander_, which made many of the same points. In fact, his book recently won an award from the National Press Club. He isn’t even a conservative – just an honest, observant liberal. However, who here has heard of him or read his book? You’ve now heard of Barbara Olson, because she was a 9/11 victim. But, how many of you know that she wrote _Hell to Pay_, a low-key, well researched book critical of Hillary Clinton? The unfortunate fact is, Ann’s over-the-top style is effective for self-promotion and effective for getting he POV across. There are lots of better conservative writers, but they are indeed mostly invisible. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/25 "2002-09-24T02:20:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by december \* > \*\*Her admission that she was “exaggerting slightly” doesn’t come close to curing the offensiveness. \*\* She does that all the time too. She backpedals whenever she called on her insanity in public. She is as slimy as they come. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/26 "2002-09-24T02:37:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JonScribe \* > \*\* > > Hey, I liked “2112” as much as the next guy, but I wouldn’t base my political philosophy on it. \*\* You liked _2112_? Who is this “next guy”, and does he also like _2112_? Preposterous. Two people somewhere in the universe enjoying _2112_, that I can vaguely picture in my mind’s eye as a possibilty, but two _adjacent_ people? Surely you jest, friend. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/27 "2002-09-24T03:44:02Z")
Excuse me, **JonScribe** , but I have to butt in and make this reference: “No, I’m not jesting. And don’t call me Shirley.” **Hi-yo!** My favorite people are the Ann Coulter defenders who say “you just don’t like outspoken women who are smarter than you.” To which I reply “Hillary Clinton” and their heads explode. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/28 "2002-09-24T03:57:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > Either that, or Ann’s a closet liberal, trying to make conservatives look bad. I used to think the same thing about Limbaugh. Theory was that if I were writing a parody of a right-wing demagogue, I’d put precisely the same words in his mouth. It’s still an appealing theory, even though I’m no longer ridiculously high and scrounging the pantry for potato chips at 1:30 in the morning. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/29 "2002-09-24T04:50:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elucidator \* > \*\* and completely ignore the compelling and insightful conservative spokespersons like Harmon Fensternagle! > \*\* Well, there’s George Will and William Buckley. William Safire’s not bad There just is this nasty tendency I’ve noticed, by both sides of the ideological spectrum to use name calling and demonization. ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/30 "2002-09-24T04:57:47Z")
—You’ve now heard of Barbara Olson, because she was a 9/11 victim. But, how many of you know that she wrote Hell to Pay, a low-key, well researched book critical of Hillary Clinton?— “Well researched” in much the same way as Coulter is with all her lauded “footnotes.” I.e., he cites the unfounded speculation she agrees with. Olson was a polemicist much like Coulter, and one of Coulter’s best friends (which is one reason I think Coulter went so overboard after 9/11). ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/31 "2002-09-24T13:45:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*I used to think the same thing about Limbaugh. Theory was that if I were writing a parody of a right-wing demagogue, I’d put precisely the same words in his mouth. \*\* Limbaugh has been subjected to many critical articles and books – often designed precisely to portray him as a parody of a right-wing demogogue. To get a fair understanding of what he does, one should listen to the entire show for a few days. Pulling a few atypical bits out of a radio show is just as inaccurate as pulling a few atypical bits out of a court decision. ---
**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/32 "2002-09-24T14:16:39Z")
There’s no better way to keep the 3-year old shouting “Poo Poo!” than to express outrage and give her attention every time she does it. ---
**Author:** ![japatlgt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@japatlgt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/japatlgt)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/33 "2002-09-24T16:00:27Z")
Ann seems like a product of liberal karma to me. What goes around comes around. Her screaming b\*tch persona does get old fast though, doesn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Skid\_Row](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@Skid\_Row](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skid_Row)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/34 "2002-09-25T01:59:00Z")
Its a damn shame Anne Coulter couldn’t have been on the flight with Barbara Olsen. There, I said it. Let the games begin. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/35 "2002-09-25T02:10:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Its a damn shame Anne Coulter couldn’t have been on the flight with Barbara Olsen. There, I said it. I agree. If she’d been there, the terrorists would’ve fled the plane screaming in terror. ---
**Author:** ![Skid\_Row](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@Skid\_Row](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skid_Row)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/36 "2002-09-25T02:17:01Z")
That’s a great point, Mill. Awfully difficult to run from an airborne plane, but those two blowhards could’ve made someone do it. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/37 "2002-09-25T03:05:10Z")
Isn’t she the one who said that we should go in with guns blazing, kill off any religious leaders and convert them all to christianity? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/38 "2002-09-25T03:20:23Z")
No, no, no. She suggested only that we might convert the _survivors_ to Christianity. She made no mention of any attempt to convert dead religious leaders. After all, she’s not crazy. [flashback hijack] _Georgeeeeeee Tirebiter! He’s Not Insane!_ [/flashback hijack] ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/39 "2002-09-25T06:52:14Z")
I finally got a copy of _Slander_ from the library. I agree with Coulter’s critics that some of her criticisms are beyond the pale and some of her footnoted points are questionable. However… This book is very persuasive in its thesis, because of the many, many examples. Coulter’s off-the-wall comments like those posted on this thread are indefensible. However, many of the examples in her book are just as bad. E.g., It is not uncommon for liberals to publicly call for the death of conservatives, as **Skid Row’s** did above. At least, Coulter called for the death and religious conversion of murderers of Americans. Also, conservative books get demonized, even when they’re low key and accurate. Two examples are David Brock’s _The Real Anita Hill_ and _Unlimited Access_, by Gary Aldrich. (By the way, I’m well aware that Brock has switched allegences, but anyone who reads his book and the book’s critics will realize how well it stands up.) If the Democrats had paid attention to _Unlimited Access_ they might have avoided the whole Lewinsky scandal, and Gore might be President right now. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343/40 "2002-09-25T07:04:09Z")
> [@](#): > > This book is very persuasive in its thesis, because of the many, many examples. Coulter’s off-the-wall comments like those posted on this thread are indefensible. However, many of the examples in her book are just as bad. E.g., It is not uncommon for liberals to publicly call for the death of conservatives, as Skid Row’s did above. At least, Coulter called for the death and religious conversion of murderers of Americans. At this point, I would automatically distrust almost anything Ann Coulter says. I’d look for the original sources for all those “just as bad” quotes before I take them as fact. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-coulter-does-it-again/129343.md?page=3)