# Annie-Xmas, I can think of a word that fits

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 11, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-xmas-i-can-think-of-a-word-that-fits/791000 "2017-07-11T14:50:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 13, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/annie-xmas-i-can-think-of-a-word-that-fits/791000/253 "2017-07-13T13:11:43Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> The correlation between being called “nigger” and being black is probably several orders of magnitude greater than the correlation between being called “nigger” and any particular behavior. Thus it seems entirely reasonable to say that the slur is much, much more about being black than it is about any particular behavior.

That’s a trivial observation. Black people who exhibit the stereotypical traits are a subset of the larger group of black people. So obviously the correlation to the larger group is going to be greater. (Using “correlation” in the sense that I think you’re using it.)

The term does not generally apply to white people who exhibit those same traits, Robert Byrd notwithstanding.

> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I’m happy to repeat the original point: There is no stereotype for the word “nigger” other than being black.

No doubt you’d be happy to repeat the “original point”. Because you’d like to obscure what our point of contention has been in this discussion. Which is not the original point about there being no stereotype etc. But about whether you can prove this point from the fact that any black person has a non-zero chance of being called a “nigger”. This is a completely specious point and it’s understandable that you’d rather revert to repeating the “original point”, which whether correct or not at least has some logic to it.

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> And I notice you haven’t admitted you were wrong about saying "no one disagrees that being black suffices to be called “nigger”, which you underlined for emphasis. Got any dance moves for that one?

Must have gone over your head. I addressed this in some detail, in the second paragraph that you quoted.

> [@cochrane](#):
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> I know this is a hijack, and I am not a mod, but we had a thread about this last month. **Jonathan Chance** and **Bone** are both of the opinion that taking a devil’s advocate position is permissible, at least in Great Debates, as long as you make it clear that you’re posting your position in order to stimulate discussion, and not to stir up shit.

Note, however, that I’ve not made clear that I’m “posting [my] position in order to stimulate discussion”. And in fact I can tell you definitively that that’s not what I’m doing.

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