# Anonymous Gun Control Poll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 1, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835 "2010-03-01T06:07:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/41 "2010-03-03T20:39:11Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Way to go. We managed for a few days to avoid the invective, but I knew someone would kick it off. Looks like you win the prize.

_Invective?_

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

Hell, I’m not sure what _you_ mean _at all_. I just think you’re kinda confused here.

Maybe ‘invective’ to you means ‘someone expressed a mild opinion in “In My Humble Opinion” that I disagree with.’

If that’s not it, then fuck-all if I have any clue as to what you’re about here.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/42 "2010-03-03T20:44:02Z")

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Gun nuts, Amerika, jack-booted thugs, fantasize… you didn’t say those things?

_checks post_

Looks like your name. Yep, you did say them. Any reason why you couldn’t have simply posted your opinion without insults?

If that’s a “mild” opinion I’d hate to see an insulting one.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/43 "2010-03-03T20:52:27Z")

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Way to act like adults, **RTFirefly** and **Airman Doors, USAF**.

Closing thread.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/44 "2010-03-04T21:52:53Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Way to act like adults, **RTFirefly** and **Airman Doors, USAF**.
> 
> Closing thread.

Reopening thread.  
Infractions for **RTFirefly** and **Airman Doors, USAF**.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/45 "2010-03-04T22:04:34Z")

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Voted for _Not banned, but we should have much stricter gun regulations._

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/46 "2010-03-04T22:15:34Z")

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I believe in responsible gun ownership. Specifically, gun owners are responsible for what happens with their guns; if your child or a neighbor kid finds your gun and hurts someone, you are subject to prosecution. If your gun is stolen and used in a crime, you are subject to prosecution.

Responsible gun ownership entails securing your gun so it cannot be a danger to others. If you fail in that responsibility, you will be punished. Responsible gun owners have nothing to fear from this approach.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/47 "2010-03-04T22:18:09Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I believe in responsible gun ownership. Specifically, gun owners are responsible for what happens with their guns; if your child or a neighbor kid finds your gun and hurts someone, you are subject to prosecution. If your gun is stolen and used in a crime, you are subject to prosecution.
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> Responsible gun ownership entails securing your gun so it cannot be a danger to others. If you fail in that responsibility, you will be punished. Responsible gun owners have nothing to fear from this approach.

So how did you vote?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/48 "2010-03-04T22:18:37Z")

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Stricter gun regulations.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/49 "2010-03-04T22:46:47Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Stricter gun regulations.

If I may ask, how would you define “strict”? I mean, like “stricter penalties for gun crimes, and anything worse than a lever-action rifle is banned,” or more like “you can own a gatling gun if you want, but if anyone commits a crime with it, you get the chair”?

Hell, I’d probably be up for the latter, myself. 😃

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/50 "2010-03-04T23:17:38Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> If I may ask, how would you define “strict”? I mean, like “stricter penalties for gun crimes, and anything worse than a lever-action rifle is banned,” or more like “you can own a gatling gun if you want, but if anyone commits a crime with it, you get the chair”?

Basically, you’d have to have a justifiable reason to own one, go through a background check as to your mental stability and criminal background, and you’d have to have a training course in using the things. And the list of justifiable reasons to own one would be pretty short. I want owning a gun to be rare, and difficult.

And as I said upthread, concealed weapons wouldn’t be permitted. I’d want small, easily concealable guns to be even harder to get than big, obvious ones.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/51 "2010-03-04T23:18:31Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> If I may ask, how would you define “strict”?

As i said,

> [@](#):
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> Specifically, gun owners are responsible for what happens with their guns; if your child or a neighbor kid finds your gun and hurts someone, you are subject to prosecution. If your gun is stolen and used in a crime, you are subject to prosecution.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/52 "2010-03-04T23:22:16Z")

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All firearms should be legal, no new laws/restrictions, eliminate the laws that only restrict “scary looking” guns\*\*, enforce the rules we already have.  
\*\*an AR-15 semiauto (a plastic-stocked “scary” rifle that _LOOKS_ like an M-16/M-4 Select-Fire weapon, but is SEMI-automatic only, one round per trigger pull) is less powerful than Grandpa’s old .30-06 wood-and-steel bolt action deer rifle, or his old .30-30 lever-action, the _only_ advantage of the AR is a larger magazine capacity (up to 30 rounds of .223/5.56mm caliber cartridges, basically an overpowered .22 bullet, the .30-30/.30-06 holds 4-5 rounds of a .30 caliber bullet, a .30-xx rifle cartridge is faster and punches a bigger hole than the .223/5.56mm)

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/53 "2010-03-04T23:27:22Z")

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I voted “All guns should be legal to own.”

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/54 "2010-03-04T23:33:21Z")

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I’m uncomfortable with any of the options, because I would support some gun control legislation, but only if there were an amendment to the constitution changing the 2nd amendment first.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/55 "2010-03-05T00:30:35Z")

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I voted for the status quo. Not that I think things are ideal now so much as I believe they are evolving towards a better system slowly but gradually. If I had to summarize an opinion, it would be more restrictions on who can have a weapon, less restrictions on the weapons themselves and how and where they can be used. I think the success of the CCW programs is a good foundation to start with.

I guess I should stop there as I don’t want an IMHO post to be a form of gun-issue witnessing.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/56 "2010-03-05T00:42:21Z")

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I voted for status quo. I think you do a great disservice to the Constitution when you qualify a constitutional right to the point of virtual non-existence.

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/57 "2010-03-05T00:47:38Z")

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Yeah, can’t vote, no good option. Even “things are good as they are” aren’t good enough because too many states and municipalities don’t observe the second amendment. A supreme court ruling could fix that, and soon.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/58 "2010-03-05T01:06:31Z")

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Oh, and I forgot,[“Shoulder things that go up”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rGpykAX1fo) for \*EVERYONE 😉

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/59 "2010-03-05T01:50:25Z")

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**FearItself** —Sorry; to clarify, I was curious if you were also talking about more strictly regulating the TYPES of guns that would be legal to own.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anonymous-gun-control-poll/530835/60 "2010-03-05T14:59:14Z")

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I was one of the dinks who voted no opinion. Honestly, I’m completely fine with the gun laws and rights as they are, though I’d be all for stricter punishments for crimes involving firearms. _But that’s just the law_. I have a different opinion with regards to the social implications of some aspects of gun ownership in this country (there’s foamers on both sides).

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