# Another 419 scammer, but I'm not sure I have the stamina...

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 3, 2007, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537 "2007-04-03T08:34:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/1 "2007-04-03T08:34:03Z")

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> From: Dr Sule Jimo  
> DEAR FRIEND,
> 
> I AM Dr.Sule Jimo,THE BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER. I WORK IN THE  
> AUDITING/ACCOUNTING SECTION OF THE BANK OF AFRICA(BOA),OUAGADUGOU, BURKINA FASO.  
> I HAVE A BUSINESS DEAL WHICH WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE BOTH OF US. THE  
> AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED IS EIGHTEEN MILLION,FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND USA DOLLARS ($18.5 MILLION US DOLLARS) ,WHICH I WANT TO TRANSFER OUT OF THE COUNTRY TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, ALL TO MY FINANCIAL BENEFIT AND YOURS TOO.
> 
> AND ALSO TO TAKE MY WIFE TO USA FOR TREATMENT OF LIVER DAMAGE.
> 
> THIS MONEY WAS OWNED BY ONE OF THE CUSTOMERS IN OUR BANK.THE MAN’S NAME IS CALLED ANDREAS SCHRANNER FROM MUNICH,GERMANY.HE WAS INTO PROPERTIES AS HIS BUSINESS IN GERMANYAND BUSINESS COMMERCIALIST IN WEST-AFRICAN REGIONS.  
> HE HAS BEEN DEAD SINCE SIX YEARS AGO ON 25TH JULY,2000 CONCORDE PLANE  
> CRASH[Flight AF4590] WITH THE WHOLE PASSENGERS ABOARD .
> 
> N.B.IN OTHER FOR YOU TO BELIEVE ME HONESTLY GO THROUGH THIS (website) BEFORE YOU START WITH ME. BELOW IS THE WEBSITE:
> 
> ( [BBC NEWS | Europe | Families wiped out in crash](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm) )
> 
> AND SINCE THEN,NO CLAIM HAS BEEN PLACED IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT BALANCE.  
> I WANT TO TRANSFER THIS MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTRY BUT SUCH FUND CAN NOT BE TRANSFERRED WITHOUT A NEXT OF KIN ATTACHED TO THE FUND.
> 
> THE FUND COULD BE TRANSFERRED IN THESE WAY;YOU SHALL PRESENT YOURSELF AS BUSINESS ASSOCIATES TO THE DECEASED PERSON[ANDREAS SCHRANNER] OR AS THE ONLY SURVIVING NEXT OF KIN,AS DETAILS SHALL BE THAT YOU ARE THE CARE-TAKER BUSINESS ASSOCIATES TO MR.ANDREAS SCHRANNER AND HIS PROPERTIES.
> 
> I SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE TO YOU MATERIALS AND INFORMATIONS WITH WHICH A  
> SUCCESSFUL CLAIM SHALL BE PLACED ON THE FUND. I SHALL BE YOUR GUIDIANCE AND INSTRUCTOR THROUGHOUT THE DURATION OF THIS TRANSACTION SO AS TO ENSURE A SWIFT AND SURE TRANSFER OF THE FUND TO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT.
> 
> AS TO YOUR BENEFITS, YOU SHALL BE ENTITLED TO 40% OF THIS FUND FOR YOUR  
> CO-OPERATION IN THIS TRANSACTION WHILE 5% WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR EXPENCES BOTH OF US MIGHT INCURE DURING THE COURSE OF THIS TRANSACTION.  
> SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, SEND A REPLY TO ME IMMEDIATELY AND IN YOUR REPLY PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR [PRIVATE PHONE AND YOUR FAX NUMBERS]  
> URGENCY HAS TO BE IMPLIED AND THIS BUSINESS MUST STRICTLY BE A DEAL  
> BETWEEN BOTH OF US.
> 
> BEST REGARDS,  
> Dr.Sule Jimo  
> Bill & Exchange Manager(BOA

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> From: Mangetout
> 
> I completely believe you, really. I want to do it!

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> From: Dr Sule Jimo  
> Dear Mange,  
> Greetings to you and your family.I guarantee you of 100% risk free transaction.
> 
> For choosen you is how God made it to be, because i don’t know you,but when I came across your contact information (email contact)through the internet in my search for a reliable and trust-worthy fellow, my instinct pointed so much toward you, I had to pray over it before my contact to you.
> 
> It took me one week before I made up my mind to contact you over my offer,so i regarded it to be the wish of GOD for me to have contacted you over my proposal. I said to myself trust can only be build by trusting in GOD.I have given you the maximum trust i can ever give to anyone, so please do not betray it, and i respect your position.
> 
> I appreciate your interest in this transaction,but I would say that your interest to assist me was rather unspecific following the brief sentences which was contained in your email,as a result of which I am quite skeptical in believing that you could be of assistance to me as a partner however, I would like to be sure of your willingness, trustworthiness and commitment to execute this transaction with me,I cannot afford to compromise these virtues.
> 
> So to save some time, I want to explain some of the details and steps to take to actualise this transfer successfully. Presently, I am employed to this bank, in the Auditing and Accounting Unit/Department, from where I plan to finalise the execution of this transfer before I’ll resign.
> 
> I am of average age, married to a wife, and blessed with three children. The perfection of this transaction has so far consumed a great amount of money, energy and is the life line to the future of me and my family, so I do need your assistance in providing a good bank account, your co-operation both morally and financially, your trust and confidence in our ability to finalise this transfer to our mutual benefit, and your guarantee for my share of the money when the transfer has been effected into your bank account, and my security when I do come to your country to collect my share of the money, so I will want you to think again, and inform me if you will guarantee me of all these,
> 
> Considering the money involved,it is necesary for me to be sure of the person to whom I will be entrusting this transaction,my trust is not given out lightly,I need to be convinced that you are a matured person with some intergrity.
> 
> TRUST AND CONFIDENCE.  
> I need to emphasise on the need for trust and confidence on both side as the pillar for the success of this business. you need to reassure me that you will not betray me and sit on this fund when it finally comes into your custody.Forward to me the followings:
> 
> 1.your full name.  
> 2.Home and office address.  
> 3.occupation.  
> 4.personal/private phone number.  
> 5.Scanned copy of your international passport or drivers license.
> 
> What I expect from you is trust and commitment, I want this large sum of money transfered with your assistance.
> 
> I want to know if you are willing to follow up this business seriously, before I can give you more details about this transaction, however I shall be waiting your response and assurance.
> 
> Again let me remind you that being a part of this transaction would only be at your free will,I cannot impose this on you,it is your choice to agree or disagree, but at least I deserve the previledge of knowing your decision.
> 
> Call me on my private number for more explanations:[snipped].
> 
> Dr.Sule.

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> From: Mangetout  
> I’m intrigued by your 100% guarantee. How does this work? Is the transaction to be underwritten or something?

Not sure how far I’m going to take this one as I’m off on holiday tomorrow and will not have regular internet access while I’m away.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/2 "2007-04-03T09:19:43Z")

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I just get so tired of these things. Anyone who now gets caught deserves it. Well, in my view they always did. Greed.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/3 "2007-04-03T09:22:11Z")

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Just send one-liners the whole time. The 419er is your saviour. Sometimes express worship, love or even lust for the 419er. That’d save time. (Or you could just delete it - I get about 20 a day myself so no longer indulge.)

Going anywhere nice on your hols?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/4 "2007-04-03T10:15:04Z")

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He just resent his last email in its entirety, so I have responded:

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> Just one other question: Will I have to touch any animals in order to carry out this transaction? This is a vitally important issue for me.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/5 "2007-04-03T10:19:28Z")

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[QUOTE=jjimm]  
Going anywhere nice on your hols?  
[/QUOTE]  
I’m going to Spain (Murcia) - my mum lives out there in her caravan for most of the year; she’s pitching a tent for us.  
We went there last year around this time but flew back on Good Friday - this time we’ll be there for the whole of the Easter weekend, so that could be interesting.

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**Author:** ![MovingTarget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@MovingTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovingTarget)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/6 "2007-04-03T11:23:29Z")

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I loved your last 419 schtick. It had me rolling on the floor for most of it. I understand if you can’t/won’t do that again, it would be trying on anyone’s nerves. Just leave the guy hanging as long as you can as maybe he won’t send someone less informed than you another e-mail.

I hope you have fun on your holiday. We’ll be waiting patiently for your return. 😃

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/7 "2007-04-03T20:09:36Z")

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Thanks.

I just received this:

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> Dear Mange,
> 
> Has i said to you that this transaction i guarantee you of 100% risk free,  
> so you shoud not worried of any thing, all i really need is your trust and make this transfer well without no delay.
> 
> If you are ready, to continue with me give me your information so that i can send you the application form to apply to the bank.
> 
> Waiting to hear from.
> 
> Dr Sule.

So I replied:

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> I should have told you that ‘Mangetout’ is not my real name - it’s just an email pseudonym. My real name is Bishop Rector Cassock. Are you certain I will not have to touch any animals?

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-419-scammer-but-im-not-sure-i-have-the-stamina/398537/8 "2007-04-26T16:10:36Z")

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Cool! Ths thread inspired me to try a little bit of nonsense myself. Today, I got a Nigerian scammer in my Hotmail account. I left out the initial scammer’s letter, as it was nothing out of the ordinary.

Me:

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> Bless you ! Me and my husbands would be happy to help, you won’t regret dealing with us. We were busy filling out the form you sent us, but we are unsure as to how to fill out the line “marital status”. You see, I’m part of a three way marriage, which is recognized and sanctioned by our church (Presbyteran Church of South Africa) but our government is in the process of legislating our union. Should we wait with filling in the form untill the formal status or our union&nbsp; is decided upon?  
> Also, I feel it is important that you state what race you are. Our religion does not permit us to deal with people of mixed breed. Black is best, white is fine; but if you have any grandparent of mixed heritage, I’m afraid the deal is off.
> 
> God bless you,  
> Mrs, Mr and Mr. Zuydebeest from Capetown, South Africa.

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> Please on your questions,do not be afraid for i am a black african and you are free to fill what so evr you like in the form sent to you,but that is not the most important issue rather what we have to seek now is how we could be able to pull this money out from this bank that was why i needed your assistance in doing that,now after reading my mail you inform me so as to send you a text of application which you will fill and send to the bank for the release of the fund from the bank,if it interests you to be my partner then you let me know so as to tell you how to procced in geting our aim.
> 
> Thank’s,
> 
> KEVIN NANAS.
