# Another Africa thread hijacked **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-africa-thread-hijacked/576767 "2011-04-01T13:04:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 480
**Author:** ![New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9d8465/32.png) [@New\_Deal\_Democrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/New_Deal_Democrat)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-africa-thread-hijacked/576767/480 "2011-04-15T09:32:56Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > The Nonsense and Twaddle side has exhausted its time. [And now, the response from the Facts and Reality side:](http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/150-years-later-were-still-fighting-the-civil-war/2011/04/12/AFFLFeSD_story.html?hpid=z5) > > Thank you, Facts and Reality side. So, the observed outcomes are the same, but the chain of cause and effect is actually racism causing problems, not vice versa as asserted by the Nonsense and Twaddle side? > > Yes, I’d say that sums it up neatly. Harold Meyerson’s column, which you linked to, is excellent. It in no way counters what I have written in this this and other threads. Meyerson’s point is that the Republican Party helps the corporate elite enrich itself by pauperizing the middle and working classes. My point is that this is possible because white blue collar workers have legitimate concerns about black social pathology, which Democrats find excuses for. In addition, Hispanic immigration, which the Democrat Party promotes, places downward pressure on wages. The Hispanic crime rate, while lower than the black crime rate, is higher than the white crime rate. Because they live closer to to blacks and Hispanics, white blue collar workers are more threatened by crime. In The Communist Manifesto Karl Marx wrote, “The working men have no country.” In the United States the white working class has no party. The Republican Party is the Party of the rich. The Democrat Party is the party for third world minorities that are less evolved because they are closer in number of generations to the stone age. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-africa-thread-hijacked/576767)._