# Another AMA for the (not so) Amateur Porn Director **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 16, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795 "2015-02-16T05:41:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/61 "2015-03-01T14:50:27Z")
What’s it like working with Janet Mason? She seems to enjoy it so much, I think it’d be fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/62 "2015-03-01T15:22:24Z")
Do you ever film “private” porn? That is, stuff that isn’t meant for actual release and is just for the people involved? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/63 "2015-03-01T20:02:51Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > When, in my imagination, I think of a “gangbang”, I picture one man after another “taking turns” with a girl. Each man has his way with her until he finishes, then steps aside and lets the next guy take over. Isn’t that more properly called “pulling a train”? I’ve never seen porn specifically about that. An unfilled niche? Mike could travel a bit north and film the “Chattanooga Cho-Cho” series. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/64 "2015-03-01T21:07:31Z")
So do you need an assistant? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/65 "2015-03-01T21:19:18Z")
**gaffa** , I thought of “pulling a train” as a variation within the broader gangbang concept, in which it’s that sort of individual consecutive sequence, while gangbang can also include simultaneous groupings from different points of entry. I would wonder if Mike would care in any way to comment on some of the posts in [this other thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=750270) particularly numbers [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18170454&postcount=22) and [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18170480&postcount=23), about the longterm trajectories of pornstars and especially the men. And “leather-dicked woman-haters” would be a _horrible_ band name… ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/66 "2015-03-01T21:23:21Z")
Why do you think there are still such clear lines of demarcation regarding race in porn? Particularly Black vs. everything else? Do you think the industry has a race problem as many performers have alleged? How was Mind Geek able to control so much of the adult market so quickly? I get the claim is they stole material for their tube sites, but why was that strategy successful given you don’t see Popcorn Time or Pirate Bay buying Sony studios? What do you think about porn companies suing people for copyright infringement hoping they settle rather than risk reputational damage? Is there better safety these days in terms of STDs in the absence of one controlling body? ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/67 "2015-03-01T21:52:21Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > What’s it like working with Janet Mason? She seems to enjoy it so much, I think it’d be fantastic. Janet is a lot of fun and she is one of the girls doing it because for her and her hubby…its fun, they are super nice people too. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/68 "2015-03-01T21:54:05Z")
> [@installLSC](#): > > Do you ever film “private” porn? That is, stuff that isn’t meant for actual release and is just for the people involved? All the time actually, and it makes sense if you want a group of guys that you know are clean, polite, tested and wont fall in love would you rather try to round them up or would you come to me…there ya go ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/69 "2015-03-01T21:55:24Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Isn’t that more properly called “pulling a train”? I’ve never seen porn specifically about that. An unfilled niche? Mike could travel a bit north and film the “Chattanooga Cho-Cho” series. potato potatoe…for everyone its a bit different but its still basically the same thing ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/70 "2015-03-01T21:57:19Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > So do you need an assistant? Actually i go through quite a few of them but I actually require them to be either in film school or film school grads…its good experience…I have lots that have gone on to make political candidate ads, TV commercials, one films for NASCAR so they do learn…and I generally prefer females…and believe it or not I have no shortage of them. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/71 "2015-03-01T22:03:41Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > **gaffa** , I thought of “pulling a train” as a variation within the broader gangbang concept, in which it’s that sort of individual consecutive sequence, while gangbang can also include simultaneous groupings from different points of entry. > I would wonder if Mike would care in any way to comment on some of the posts in [this other thread,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=750270) particularly numbers [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18170454&postcount=22) and [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18170480&postcount=23), about the longterm trajectories of pornstars and especially the men. > And “leather-dicked woman-haters” would be a _horrible_ band name… I commented in that thread ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/72 "2015-03-01T22:12:31Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Why do you think there are still such clear lines of demarcation regarding race in porn? Particularly Black vs. everything else? Do you think the industry has a race problem as many performers have alleged? > > How was Mind Geek able to control so much of the adult market so quickly? I get the claim is they stole material for their tube sites, but why was that strategy successful given you don’t see Popcorn Time or Pirate Bay buying Sony studios? > > What do you think about porn companies suing people for copyright infringement hoping they settle rather than risk reputational damage? > > Is there better safety these days in terms of STDs in the absence of one controlling body? Im not sure there is, at least not any more than there is between other porn genres. theres no shartage of interracial porn, matter of fact i would say its the single largest genre. and it isnt like black porn performers make less…some do some dont but Lexington Steele is among the highest paid male performers in porn. there are girls who wont perform with black guys but they are a relative minority, but there are also black guys that wont perform with black girls…to each his own I say, I wouldnt even try to force any performer to perform with someone they dont want to. Mansef/Manwin/Mindgeek is a very long story, one that I am still unravelling, you are right that they are taking over a lot of porn and you are right that they did it with money made primarily from stealing content then making it available for free. The even got a 365M dollar load from Colbeck Capital, which colbeck then sold off in pieces to companies like fortress Investment group…I found all that and Fox News did a two day story on it quoting me as the source…I still talk to Charlie Gasperino from time tio time. It appears to me at this point that Manwin isnt so much in the porn biz these days (thats a front) as they are in the…lets call it international banking biz…ie moving money around…something that very easy to do when you have hundreds of shell corps in places like Seychelles, hong kong, Dublin, Cyprus etc…and no inventory… As for suing the downloaders…it was a bad move I get what the intent was but the execution was poorly thought out, targeting uploaders is a better strategy but even that has failed. As for STDs we do a pretty good job of screening out HIV but thats the only one recent studies in Porn Valley have shown a 34 and 68 times higher incidence of Gonorrhea and Chlamydia (respectively) than is found tin the general population and same age group in the area. For me its a non issue i have a closed talent pool and a very limited shooting schedule…I do the best i can and canh honestly say in 20+ years nobody has ever contracted anything on one of my sets…(knocking on wood) ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/73 "2015-03-01T22:35:29Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > Im not sure there is, at least not any more than there is between other porn genres. theres no shartage of interracial porn, matter of fact i would say its the single largest genre. and it isnt like black porn performers make less…some do some dont but Lexington Steele is among the highest paid male performers in porn. there are girls who wont perform with black guys but they are a relative minority, but there are also black guys that wont perform with black girls…to each his own I say, I wouldnt even try to force any performer to perform with someone they dont want to. I was hanging around the neighborhood video store, and a black guy came in, trying to find some black porn. Not interracial, but porn featuring black men with black women, and shockingly the store simply didn’t have any. Plenty of “White Chicks and Black Dicks” and the reverse, but none of what he was seeking. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/74 "2015-03-01T22:37:05Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I was hanging around the neighborhood video store, and a black guy came in, trying to find some black porn. Not interracial, but porn featuring black men with black women, and shockingly the store simply didn’t have any. Plenty of “White Chicks and Black Dicks” and the reverse, but none of what he was seeking. actually you have a point there that is a relatively underserved market no doubt there…maybe thats a niche I could cash in on 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/75 "2015-03-02T01:07:50Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > I am ALWAYS open to suggestions…believe me Id love to find an underserved niche that I could understand how to shoot! > > Do the girls enjoy it…I will answer that from a couple of perspectives…In mainstream porn, for the most part the answer is no. Asia Carrera was once asked what her favorite part of a scene was and her answer was “When the director says cut” it was a dumb answer but it was honest. At the time she was a “Vivid Girl” and as a result Steve hirsch the owner of Vivid made all of his girls take PR classes. > > On the flip side amateurs like the ones I shoot actually usually do enjoy it. I personally am looking for girls that will enjopy it and have fun with it and I have no problem finding them, even for the bukkake site there is an amazing number of girls I shoot that LOVE it…even to the point that they will come to shoots that they arent performing in and will stick around for an off camera party afterwards where they can play. > > Cherry morgan is one of these girls > > [http://southernbukkake.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Cherry4thumb.jpg](http://southernbukkake.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Cherry4thumb.jpg) > > thats a safe for work photo hopefully its ok to post if not i apologize in advance. But the point is to illustrate that there are very pretty girls who do it without a shred of regret and even have fun doing so…I like shooting these girls because that having fun part comes through in the video and Cherry is one of my favorites and she has gon on to do more in porn but she still shoots with me regularly > > As for unwanted regulation…we get a fair amount…most of it in the form of Title 18 section 2257 United states code. > > I have no problem requiring that a girl be 18 or older and being able to prove that she was but the way its written is alarming…it allows warrant-less searches and imposes cumbersome filing and cros referencing that if I dont comply with I can be fined 10K or more. it forces me to be able to prove that I didnt commit a crime that never happened… Thanks for the reply. Your answer on amateur versus professional porn actresses confirmed what I had suspected. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/76 "2015-03-02T02:41:17Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > Im not sure there is, at least not any more than there is between other porn genres. theres no shartage of interracial porn, matter of fact i would say its the single largest genre. and it isnt like black porn performers make less…some do some dont but Lexington Steele is among the highest paid male performers in porn. there are girls who wont perform with black guys but they are a relative minority, but there are also black guys that wont perform with black girls…to each his own I say, I wouldnt even try to force any performer to perform with someone they dont want to. First, thanks for the reply. That said, just looking at your link for talent agencies you linked to before. At LA Direct 9 of the 66 girls do interracial, and at VIP Connect 18 of 51 do it. That seems to be a smaller percentage than if it weren’t an issue. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/77 "2015-03-02T03:00:22Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > you are soooo right…you wouldnt believe what some of these girls look like with no make up… if youd like a look go here > > [Articles for 08.03.2013](http://izismile.com/2013/03/08/porn) stars before and after their makeup makeover 93 pics.html (NSFW) replace spaces with \_ > > A good make up artist makes a WORLD of difference Proof of how one could leave the business without getting outed. However, I’m impressed by the splooge-proof cosmetics these days. > [@MikeSouth](#): > > nowd ays almost any girl can come into the biz and get some work look at a girl like Bonnie Rotten (who used to dance at a strip club I owned) I like her personally but as a porn star I dont get it, she is way too thin, she is covered in ink, many of the tats have white supremacist meanings and origins so I dont get it. > > look at 90s/90s girls like Shauna Grant, Hyapatia Lee, Raquel Darrien, Christy Canyon. they are feminine, curvy but not fat they look soft and most importantly they look like girls. > > Contrast them to Kayden Kross, Bonnie Rotten, Asa Akira and I dont get it…im not a fan of the girls with bodies like little boys and over inflated fake tits… Showing your age, Mike. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/78 "2015-03-02T05:01:46Z")
Mike, I’m getting one big mixed message here. You’ve mentioned a couple of times that your actors are screened for STDs, but an earlier (and unrebutted) post said that it’s taken for granted that pretty much everyone in porn has herpes. Can you clarify which STDs are screened for and which ones are not? Do herpes, chlamydia and HPV meet the medical/legal definitions of “sexually transmitted disease”? (I’m sure there are good arguments for not doing so; some strains of herpes are so mild and ubiquitous that most people probably have them, and I have heard that there is no way to test men for HPV; I’m just curious where the line is drawn. I’m a foreign teacher in East Asia and most countries hiring us only check for HIV/AIDS or whatever other scary disease of the month is floating around.) ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/79 "2015-03-02T06:03:45Z")
I assume their are some sort of scripts? What is the most number of words you’ve actually filmed in a movie? What is the largest script (in terms of pages)? Have you ever wanted to drop porn and make a mainstream film? Do you think you could? ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/80 "2015-03-02T12:33:36Z")
Regarding Niche genres: It’s always said that if you can imagine it, there is porn of it. I don’t doubt that if I can imagine it, there’s porn of it _somewhere_ that was shot at some point in time. But sometimes I really am surprised at some things that I simply can not find much of by searching keywords. I mean, it’s the _internet_! I should be able to type in any search terms I fancy and gets lots and lots of results, right? Of course, we’re talking niche, so I don’t need to be told that there’s just not much demand for certain things. I totally understand the limited demand, it’s just that I hear the “if you can think of it, there’s porn of it!” line over and over again. A couple that I have a real difficult time finding: **Three-ways with two guys, one girl …where the _guys are bisexual_.** Porn almost seems to not account for bisexual guys at all. Guys are either gay or straight. Of course all women in porn are expected to be bisexual. **Older woman and younger guy …where the guy _really_ seems young.** Sure, a 45 year old woman and a 28 year old guy technically fulfills the promise of older woman and younger guy, but the guy is so often nearing 6ft tall with broad shoulders and a chiseled jaw, maybe even some five o’clock shadow. Now when older women fantasize about younger guys, it would not surprise me in the least that they fantasize about college football player types. So, the typical older woman, younger guy porn seems like it’s perfect as a fantasy for older women. But what I want to see is someone living out the fantasy I so often had as a teenager. I’m way too old now to ever live out the fantasy myself. If I search keywords older woman, younger guy, I want to see an 18 or 19 year old guy of slight build with boyish features being “taught” (often this is the scenario being acted, but when the guy doesn’t look young it just doesn’t work). For whatever reason, when I do find this kind of scenario it tends to be Russian. Maybe that’s a popular fantasy for Russians. I have not been unable to find either of the above. It’s not an easy search though. Oh, and another thing. There should be a law that says the term M.I.L.F. can only apply to women who are old enough to be mothers of _adults_!!! Is a 22 year old woman who has a 3 year old child a mother? Of course she’s a mother. Is it possible that she could be a mother who I’d like to fuck? Sure, entirely possible. But she should _not_ get to wear the label M.I.L.F. Any woman old enough to do porn is old enough to be a mother. When the term gets used for women younger than 40, it starts to lose all meaning! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795.md?page=5)