# Another AMA for the (not so) Amateur Porn Director **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 16, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795 "2015-02-16T05:41:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/101 "2015-03-03T22:28:31Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > Oddly it happens more than ya think specially with amateurs…I try not to date the girls I shoot but it has happened and on more than one occasion turned into a relationship that lasted longer than a gallon of milk in the fridge (thats a long time for porn relationships LOL) So in other words when the scene is done and you yell “CUT” they say “could you all please leave so we can continue this?”. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/102 "2015-03-04T00:43:22Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > So in other words when the scene is done and you yell “CUT” they say “could you all please leave so we can continue this?”. Probably not, unless the guy has astonishing recuperative powers - remember how virtually all porn ends. _Especially_ the sort Mike makes. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/103 "2015-03-04T00:45:32Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Do you think mainstream will ever go porn? What I mean by that is that there is really no reason why porn shouldn’t have popular music in it rather than bow-chicka-wow-wow. Lana Del Rey’s “Fucked My Way Up to the Top” would be perfect for a porn film but I feel like the rights people would say no way. Same with advertising. Where did she get that leather skirt that she’s getting laid in right now? Why, at the Gap of course! That might be taking it a little far but at the same time I can’t stand blurred logos. I loathe “logo” clothing, but wasn’t “Porn Star” an inexplicably popular brand for a while? ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/104 "2015-03-04T06:57:21Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > Hey Mike, welcome back! Good to see you again! I will never forget your comment that you could solve the problems in the Middle East with a bukkake. (And if you can ever round up enough Jewish and Arab porn actors I propose you make just such a movie- the Peace Bukkake!) > > Half serious gripe about porn here. What is the deal with leather couches? I like women wearing leather and when I try to search for it most of the results are “look at her getting fucked on this sexy leather sofa!” as if the audience is fapping to the furniture! If a scene is hot I don’t care if they’re doing it on a leather couch, a beat up old chesterfield from the 70’s or the stained felt of a pool table. But those leather couches are advertised like they’re the granite countertops in house hunting shows. Is this intentional for marketing purposes? > > Do you think mainstream will ever go porn? What I mean by that is that there is really no reason why porn shouldn’t have popular music in it rather than bow-chicka-wow-wow. Lana Del Rey’s “Fucked My Way Up to the Top” would be perfect for a porn film but I feel like the rights people would say no way. Same with advertising. Where did she get that leather skirt that she’s getting laid in right now? Why, at the Gap of course! That might be taking it a little far but at the same time I can’t stand blurred logos. > > I mentioned to you last time that I was interested in the logistics of creating a production company and I still am. However, I have a friend who is convinced that if I ever did try it, organized crime would show up on my doorstep seconds later and demand a cut. Ron Jeremy’s autobiography (hilarious BTW) mentions a lot of getting hassled by the cops. Is there a natural overlap between porn and organized crime? Could a porn producer who wants nothing to do with criminals stay clear of them without consequence? > > Any idea why racial stereotypes persist, particularly as regards Asian women? It seems to me like a lot of Asian-American porn is marketed as suckee fuckee me love you long time and that bugs me to no end whatsoever! I can tell from looking at a girl if she’s Asian, I don’t need the movie to be called Shrimp Fried Sluts or etc. > > I’m sure I’ll think of more questions tomorrow but thanks for answering these ones! As for leaather couches I have no idea LOL… mainstream has been inching towards “porn” forever but will manstream ever do a hardcore movie…I suspect they will but it wont be anytime soon and you wont be seeing hardcore content in mainstream movies in your lifetime ever…the reason being is as Orson Welles put it, the minute the scene turns into real sex or real murder is the minute you lose the audience because the movie becomes about the sex (or the murder) and not what you are trying to make it about. Thats a paraphrase but its close. In the right film it could work…but generally it wouldnt. As for creating a production company…the mob really isnt into the porn biz anymore…not at this level anyway in the days I started they had a better way of running you out…The mob never controlled production, but they did control distribution, you simply couldnt get your product into the stores without them being the middlemen through companies like GVA America, Metro Home Video and IVD. Theyd buy a shit load of your product…then never pay you for it…you want COD fine they simply wont take it…so you better be prepared to stay alive for a year and in the meantime create a product that the stores want to carry…eventually they will start paying you if they dont starve you out first. Now days with the direct to consumer model theres no real money in it for the mob so you dont see them as a general producer…where they do pop up is when they steal your content and make it available for free on tube sites like Pornhub…after they build a lot of traffic they start selling that traffic and info about you to other scumbags who start bombarding you with emails and whatnot or hijacking your browser and chaning your homepage and lots of other unsavory stuff…but it appears to me the real purpose is to create the illusion of a lot of money so that they can launder money through these sites and businesses…remember theres no inventory so its a money launderers dream. Racial stereotypes exist because by and large people are idiots…they think its funny or witty or whatever…at least thats my take on it… ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/105 "2015-03-04T06:59:36Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > So in other words when the scene is done and you yell “CUT” they say “could you all please leave so we can continue this?”. nope usually we all go to dinner…PF Chaings and Cheesecake factory are favs…I tell the girl to tell me who she would like to stick around and I tell those guys discretely to meet us back at the room…Thats REALLY how it works. The guys know they may or may not get invited…but thats ok with everyone because over time everyone plays…al in good fun. By the time we have grabbed a bite and chatted and all everyone is ready to go again… ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/106 "2015-03-04T07:01:40Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I loathe “logo” clothing, but wasn’t “Porn Star” an inexplicably popular brand for a while? yes it was and they used to come to trade shows and pass those out to people in the biz…we’d wear them specially in videos and they got advertising and we got free threads… ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/107 "2015-03-04T13:01:42Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > nope usually we all go to dinner…PF Chaings and Cheesecake factory are favs…I tell the girl to tell me who she would like to stick around and I tell those guys discretely to meet us back at the room…Thats REALLY how it works. The guys know they may or may not get invited…but thats ok with everyone because over time everyone plays…al in good fun. By the time we have grabbed a bite and chatted and all everyone is ready to go again… So has this lead to any actual marriages? Also have you ever seen any unplanned pregnancies? Pills dont always work. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/108 "2015-03-05T00:56:05Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > yes it was and they used to come to trade shows and pass those out to people in the biz…we’d wear them specially in videos and they got advertising and we got free threads… Ah, THAT’S why Ron Jeremy would be seen in their t-shirts - they were free. Also, unlike most of the people one would see wearing them, he was a genuine porn star. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/109 "2015-03-10T00:07:56Z")
What have been your experiences with “Cuckolding” porn, have you ever shot such scene? I’m not here to question why some people are into, I understand some get off on the humiliation and just watching your girl have sex with another man, the collision of different feelings such a scenario brings to a man witnessing it. But I do wonder why it seems to have become more popular in the past few years, and what goes through the mind of the actor who plays the hubby? I know it is acting, but still to me it is just as humiliating to watch as if it were real life. If I were an actor in the adult business, I would never, ever play the cuckold role. So please do share your experiences regarding that type of porn. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/110 "2015-03-11T05:49:33Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > So has this lead to any actual marriages? > > Also have you ever seen any unplanned pregnancies? Pills dont always work. yes marriages but 2 in 20 years that I can recall no unplanned pregnancies that I know of on my sets…although I do know it has happened in Cali ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/111 "2015-03-11T05:50:59Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Ah, THAT’S why Ron Jeremy would be seen in their t-shirts - they were free. Also, unlike most of the people one would see wearing them, he was a genuine porn star. yup hell i wore them too ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/112 "2015-03-11T05:53:23Z")
> [@Nema98](#): > > What have been your experiences with “Cuckolding” porn, have you ever shot such scene? I’m not here to question why some people are into, I understand some get off on the humiliation and just watching your girl have sex with another man, the collision of different feelings such a scenario brings to a man witnessing it. > > But I do wonder why it seems to have become more popular in the past few years, and what goes through the mind of the actor who plays the hubby? I know it is acting, but still to me it is just as humiliating to watch as if it were real life. If I were an actor in the adult business, I would never, ever play the cuckold role. > > So please do share your experiences regarding that type of porn. not my niche so I dont shoot it…one thing i have learned is to NOT try to shoot a fetish that you dont understand, as I have pointed out before. I have also learned that when it comes to fetishes and such…theres more than is imaginable…and nobody seems to understand where they come from…how they manifest themselves… ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/113 "2015-03-11T15:20:36Z")
I’m not sure how much communication you have with the actual end customers of your stuff, but I admit I am curious with fetish porn how much you run into “One True Scotsman” type complaints, where instead of someone being happy that midget clown porn is being produced, he’s upset because the midget is wearing blue polka-dots, and he needs to be wearing red ones. I do recall an actual example many years ago where some guy just got really angry because the pantyhose fetish video included girls wearing crotchless pantyhose, and according to him crotchless pantyhose is not pantyhose. Having some understanding of the fetish is one thing, but there often seems to be a never-ending spiral down of specifics. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/114 "2015-03-14T17:11:06Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > I’m not sure how much communication you have with the actual end customers of your stuff, but I admit I am curious with fetish porn how much you run into “One True Scotsman” type complaints, where instead of someone being happy that midget clown porn is being produced, he’s upset because the midget is wearing blue polka-dots, and he needs to be wearing red ones. > > I do recall an actual example many years ago where some guy just got really angry because the pantyhose fetish video included girls wearing crotchless pantyhose, and according to him crotchless pantyhose is not pantyhose. > > Having some understanding of the fetish is one thing, but there often seems to be a never-ending spiral down of specifics. thats the issue with trying to shoot a fetish you dont undertand…thats EXACTLY what happens…the ropes are the wrong color, they arent wrapped correctly, they are dirty, the knots are wrong…sigh ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/115 "2015-03-14T20:16:03Z")
> [@bienville](#): > > I have not been unable to find either of the above. It’s not an easy search though. I see these both ( bi-male and young, slight male w/ older woman) regularly without looking- on various tube and categorized sites. When I first kinda “got into” porn (mid/late 90s) there was a title called “Fly bi Night” that was heavily promoted in Adam & Eve catalogs and that sort of thing, and starred big names, was directed by a big name, and the main star was a guy who was easily one of the most recognizable straight males of the past 20 years. I’m also constantly seeing this one “kid” who is a very young-looking and slightly built dude with older women. They look to be produced in a Spanish-speaking country. Though I could be wrong ( I don’t watch these particular clips and never watch anything with the sound). ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/116 "2015-03-14T20:29:58Z")
> [@Nema98](#): > > What have been your experiences with “Cuckolding” porn, have you ever shot such scene? I’m not here to question why some people are into, I understand some get off on the humiliation and just watching your girl have sex with another man, the collision of different feelings such a scenario brings to a man witnessing it. > > But I do wonder why it seems to have become more popular in the past few years, and what goes through the mind of the actor who plays the hubby? I know it is acting, but still to me it is just as humiliating to watch as if it were real life. If I were an actor in the adult business, I would never, ever play the cuckold role. > > So please do share your experiences regarding that type of porn. I have noticed in these productions that a lot of them feature real couples that claim they are genuinely into that as a lifestyle. I have also seen non-sex porn “actors” playing the husband and gay actors playing the husband. So, at least from what I’ve seen it’s either guys really into it or guys who have no problem being hired as extras in porn productions. You don’t really see straight porn actors of any status playing these roles. Though occasionally I think I’ve seen a couple recognizable dudes in “Please Bang my Wife” type things. I doubt they have an issues with it. Some of these guys have done 10 man gang bangs with 400lb midgets and stuff, with cameras pointed at their taints. I doubt that pretending to let another actor bang their wife is anymore humilating. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/117 "2015-03-14T23:27:51Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > thats the issue with trying to shoot a fetish you dont undertand…thats EXACTLY what happens…the ropes are the wrong color, they arent wrapped correctly, they are dirty, the knots are wrong…sigh Heh. Let me point to all of the fake “spanking” porn out there. Shot by directors who don’t understand it, and who hire actresses who have clearly never been spanked in their lives, judging by their complete inability to fake a remotely realistic reaction to the completely ineffectual “spanks” (read: “love taps”) they receive. OTOH, even most of the “real” stuff doesn’t do it for me. Though that’s on me, not on the producers. I have a very specific type of action I want to see, and I very rarely find it. I discovered my own interest in spanking (and, by extension, BDSM) way back when I was 13-14 years old (1979-80), and given my lack of access to “educational” material at that time — due both to my age and the era — I just started writing my own stories, while being a young virgin who had no idea what he was talking about. Just using my imagination. My “education” was further hampered by my family moving to a fairly small town when I was 17. All I could do was just keep using my imagination. It wasn’t until I discovered the Internet in 1996, at the age of 30, that I _finally_ had access to spanking/BDSM afficionados and could get properly educated. I learned how ridiculous some of the things I imagined were, but I also discovered that I wasn’t too far off the mark regarding other things. I was able to adapt the ideas my imagination had produced into more realistic, sensible concepts. My primary kink is spanking. Specifically, disciplinary spanking. Yet, even 19 years after discovering the Internet, I can only rarely find what I like, despite the widespread availability of spanking porn. Basically, I want to see a good, disciplinary spanking. What do I get? At one extreme I find videos depicting interminable lectures preceding a disappointingly brief spanking. At the other extreme, I find videos (mostly from Russia/Eastern Europe) that are more “torture” than “discipline”. Very little good stuff in between. As far as my interest in BDSM, given my spanking fetish it should not be surprising that I enjoy what they call “impact play”. Unfortunately, most of the BDSM porn that is not outright torture seems to focus more on the “Dominance/submission” aspect of BDSM. Dammit, I want to see a nice flogging, not 30 minutes of some macho guy intimidating a woman. And “electrical play”? I can certainly imagine that being fun IRL, but, sorry, it just doesn’t translate to video. So I resign myself to just continuing to write my own stories. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/118 "2015-03-15T04:25:14Z")
OK, so something I have noticed of late: A lot of porn stars have a short career. No surprises there - they want to move on, may not like the industry, etc. But more than a few hang on and keep working. Of those a not insignificant subset seem to start doing a lot of bondage films. Sometimes almost exclusively. Another subset may go into purely lesbian films and I can understand that - but why the bondage market? Is it that they know what they are getting into better than a ‘random’ straight porn shoot? Are they really into it? Are the people doing the BDSM specialty market nicer, or at least easier to deal with than the producers of regular stuff? Is it that they cannot continue to get work in the regular stuff? Or is the pay simply better? ---
**Author:** ![Chicago\_Faucet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chicago_faucet/32/13910_2.png) [@Chicago\_Faucet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicago_Faucet)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/119 "2015-03-16T11:46:35Z")
Sorry if this has been asked before, but are actors in softcore porn actually having sex? What is the industry standard or difference between softcore and hardcore porn? Or, none at all, and it is an industry driven difference due to demand and audience? ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795/120 "2015-03-16T14:01:45Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > I was hanging around the neighborhood video store, and a black guy came in, trying to find some black porn. Not interracial, but porn featuring black men with black women, and shockingly the store simply didn’t have any. Plenty of “White Chicks and Black Dicks” and the reverse, but none of what he was seeking. I hope this doesn’t sound racist, but I have a dislike for black-on-black porn specifically, since it’s more difficult to see what’s going on around the sexual organs. I watch black-on-white porn in both configurations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-ama-for-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/712795.md?page=7)