# Another annoying creationist bumper sticker

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644 "2003-04-23T17:58:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/21 "2003-04-23T21:13:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CRorex \*  
> \*\*Well, since it’s generally believed that life began in the ocean then amphibians evolved and were the progenitors of land based organisms … can’t you say we evolved from amphibians? \*\*

And I’ve met a few blokes who were definitely throwbacks to an earlier evolutionary phase.

I even kissed one or two…ewwwwwwwww. (Well, I thought they were princes. Turned out they were just toads afterall). 😛

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**Author:** ![Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7993a0/32.png) [@Clint\_in\_Wichita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clint_in_Wichita)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/22 "2003-04-23T21:19:21Z")

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I’m amused at the “Bigger Jesus Fish Eats the Smaller Darwin Fish” emblems.

The friggin’ thing is an example natural selection, but it’s purpose is to say, “I don’t believe in evolution”.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/23 "2003-04-23T21:33:23Z")

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I’d like to see a bumper sticker that says:

_If you see this vehicle driving erratically, it’s because the Bible says that pi=3._

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/24 "2003-04-23T21:36:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Esprix \*  
> \*\*Actually, the most smug, condescending and prickish button I’ve ever seen said:
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> > You’d smile too if you were going to Heaven.
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> Pompous, self-righteous asshole. :mad:
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> Esprix \*\*

Guess we know where _you’re_ going. The baaad place, mm-hmm.

The health of a planet is manifested by the continuing success of its amphibians.

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/25 "2003-04-23T21:36:17Z")

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I think the Cthulu fish is my favorite.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/26 "2003-04-23T21:36:28Z")

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Where does the Bible say pi=3?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/27 "2003-04-23T21:38:53Z")

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> No. Humans are not descended from amphibians. We share a common ancestor with amphibians in the form of tetrapods.

Okay, Mr. Smartypants, how do you explain the “Innsmouth Look”? Hmm?

Wait a minute. I’m going to take my medication and then read through this again.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/28 "2003-04-23T21:58:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \*  
> \*\*Where does the Bible say pi=3? \*\*

Page 87.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/29 "2003-04-23T22:02:04Z")

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**QED** , maybe someone will come it with a more specific cite, but in the description of (I believe) Solomon’s Temple, a round pool is described as having a diameter of 10 cubits and a circumference of 30 cubits. Ergo, Pi=3.

Of course, that’s if you ignore the possibility that the author was capable of _rounding_.

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/30 "2003-04-23T22:06:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \*  
> \*\*Where does the Bible say pi=3? \*\*

[This](http://www.snopes.com/religion/pi.htm) site should explain everything. Basically, somebody wrote an amusing piece of creative fiction that claimed that Alabama was going to redefine pi to 3 and possibly teach this interpretation in schools. The humor piece got passed around enough times that many people started to believe it.

**Skammer** is correct about the biblical reasoning for the phony law.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/31 "2003-04-23T22:10:00Z")

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Not really on-topic, but I saw this little gem while on a roadtrip to St. Louis:

“Abortion doesn’t make you UN-PREGNANT, it makes you the MOTHER of a DEAD BABY.”

Some people are just begging for the chrome horn.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/32 "2003-04-23T22:11:40Z")

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[http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/pibible.htm](http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/pibible.htm)

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/33 "2003-04-23T23:34:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beadalin \*  
> \*\*“Abortion doesn’t make you UN-PREGNANT, it makes you the MOTHER of a DEAD BABY.”
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> Some people are just begging for the chrome horn. \*\*

I saw “The Aftermath of Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded.”

There are not enough :rolleyes: on the web to express my feelings.

Re: the OP, I don’t know why Xians think that simplistic drivel like that will change any minds. Anyone who went to high school can punch holes in that flip little ditty, and look at what a smartypants can do to it. **Darwin’s Finch** did a fabulous job already.  
Where I come from, making specious arguments and oversimplifying complex scenarios makes you look _stupid_ and _gasp_ hurts your credibility! Don’t these people realize that all they’re doing is airing out their ignorance for all to point and laugh at?

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2003, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/34 "2003-04-23T23:48:09Z")

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When driving through Arkansas a couple of years ago, a friend and i saw this gem of a sign outside a church:

**Prolonged exposure to the _son_ may prevent burning.**

I thought it was pretty damn witty.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/35 "2003-04-24T00:23:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whuckfistle \*  
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> > _Originally posted by Q.E.D._  
> > Where does the Bible say pi=3?
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> Page 87. \*\*

is the funniest thing I’ve read in days.

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/36 "2003-04-24T00:24:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CRorex \*  
> \*\*I guess it depends on your family tree… I’ve got some second cousins who look like amphibians were a lot more recent additions to their family trees. \*\*

Dear God, they’ve got _The Innsmouth Look!_ :eek:

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/37 "2003-04-24T00:52:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Clint in Wichita \*  
> \*\*I’m amused at the “Bigger Jesus Fish Eats the Smaller Darwin Fish” emblems.
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> The friggin’ thing is an example natural selection, but it’s purpose is to say, “I don’t believe in evolution”. \*\*

It’s also amusing because the bigger fish eating the Darwin fish says ‘Truth’ on it. (At least the ones I’ve seen.)

Of course, ever since [walking fish](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/03/eveningnews/main514182.shtml) started turning up in US waters last year, the notion of ‘Truth’ gobbling up the fish with legs has become that much funnier.

Hey, all you dumb-ass creationists, the Darwin fish not only lives, but it’s visited Crofton, MD. 😃

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**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/38 "2003-04-24T00:58:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*Dear God, they’ve got _The Innsmouth Look!_ :eek: \*\*

Anyone else notice it’s real shadowy? Oooh, look, an eldritch horror!

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/39 "2003-04-24T01:00:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GMRyujin \*  
> \*\*Oooh, look, an eldritch horror! \*\*

Which will hopefully begin capering madly in the cthonic blackness any minute now.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Lao](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dr.Lao](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Lao)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-annoying-creationist-bumper-sticker/170644/40 "2003-04-24T01:07:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Skammer \*  
> \*\*Of course, that’s if you ignore the possibility that the author was capable of _rounding_. \*\*

In any case, it shows that the author was unaware that pi existed. That is, that there exists a ratio between diameter and circumfrence that is constant for all circles. If he did, he would have only given diameter or circumfrence, giving both rounded only creates an ambiguity. Should it be 10 cubits in diameter or 30 cubits in circumfrence? They are two different circles.

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