# Another "Anti-Gay" Crusader Falls Out Of The Closet **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 5, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349 "2010-05-05T00:14:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/221 "2010-05-07T15:08:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The conversation didn’t say **what** was massaged. Though it does say nude massage. I wonder if one or both were nude. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/222 "2010-05-07T15:10:42Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > That’s just nasty. > > Now I gotta cut ya. You… got… to… learn… to… respect… ME!!! eta: In case anybody doesn’t understand the references and thinks descamisado and I are about to fight, [the NSFW explanatory link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOJoz3wdTjU). ---
**Author:** ![rivulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@rivulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rivulus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/223 "2010-05-07T15:18:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > [Here’s a freaky looking title](http://img339.yfrog.com/img339/4404/5rekersbook.jpg)- Rekers in younger years wearing tight jeans and holding a long pole helping a boy determine his sexual identity. “You better turn out straight, kid, or I’ll beat you with my stick.” p.s. I’d better get my son a protective plaid shirt ASAP! I never realized the Power of Plaid. Keeps boys straight and turns girls into lesbians. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/224 "2010-05-07T15:25:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > [Here’s a freaky looking title](http://img339.yfrog.com/img339/4404/5rekersbook.jpg)- Rekers in younger years wearing tight jeans and holding a long pole helping a boy determine his sexual identity. Even if I knew nothing about the author, I’d still think that was a NAMBLA publication. Sheesh, wanna closer look at my crotch, kid? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/225 "2010-05-07T15:31:12Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > I guess he follows the Bill Clinton definition of “sexual relations” then. Yep. Because I’m expecting that “massage” had a “happy ending” for one or both involved. But Mr. In A Closet Named Denial tells himself that it isn’t sex, so he’s not gay… ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/226 "2010-05-07T15:33:10Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Yeah, but he can still penetrate the guy, or be penetrated. I suppose he figures so long as no actual penetration took place, then he didn’t have sex. Oral sex is NOT sex. Anal sex is NOT sex. Only penis in vagina sex counts. Didn’t you get your “Handbook to Sex” co authored by Clinton and a whole bunch of horny teenagers saving themselves for marriage? I hear Rekers is writing a new afterword for the new edition. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/227 "2010-05-07T15:36:25Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Yep. Because I’m expecting that “massage” had a “happy ending” for one or both involved. But Mr. In A Closet Named Denial tells himself that it isn’t sex, so he’s not gay… Exactly. He’s probably repeating it to himself like a mantra as he gets his “massage.” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/228 "2010-05-07T15:41:23Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > I hear Rekers is writing a new afterword for the new edition. Not until he’s finished with his tour with the Jonas Brothers though. (The Jonas Brothers vowed to remain virgins until they are married, and 1 of the 3 Jonas Brothers is diabetic, and he’s 1 of the 2 who have not been married and therefore is presumably still celibate. Therefore, celibacy as a teenager has between a 1/3 and 1/2 chance of causing diabetes- that’s using FRC statistical sampling logic.) ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/229 "2010-05-07T15:42:45Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > Five pages and no one’s laid any odds on when Rekers will announce he’s going into therapy. Not therapy, but gay rehab. Gayhab. Look for it in Webster’s 2013. -Joe ™ ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/230 "2010-05-07T15:59:38Z")
And of course, he isn’t OK with the idea of being gay, so that’s another way that he’s not gay. :rolleyes: Like I said before, I’d be sympathetic to him if he apparently hadn’t used a career of spreading misinformation/lies/slander about gay people as a way of penitence for having all those terrible, terrible fantasies about hot male bods. I do feel bad for the young guy he dragged into this, who probably never imagined that he’d end up embroiled in something this out of control. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/231 "2010-05-07T16:02:07Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Not therapy, but gay rehab. > > Gayhab. > > Look for it in Webster’s 2013. > > -Joe ™ Wasn’t Captain Gayhab the guy who went hunting for the great sperm whale? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/232 "2010-05-07T16:02:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Actually, based on that conversation, it sounds to me like they didn’t have sex. [That’s not all the kid has said](http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/05/george_rekers_is_a_homosexual_says_escort.php): > [@](#): > > The male escort hired by anti-gay activist George Alan Rekers has told Miami New Times the Baptist minister is a homosexual who paid him to provide body rubs once a day in the nude, during their ten-day vacation in Europe. > > Rekers allegedly named his favorite maneuver the “long stroke” – a complicated caress “across his penis, thigh… and his anus over the butt cheeks,” as the escort puts it. “Rekers liked to be rubbed down there,” he says. If you think that’s not sex. let me ask you this: would you give naked “long strokes” to your dad? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/233 "2010-05-07T16:05:37Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > [That’s not all the kid has said](http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2010/05/george_rekers_is_a_homosexual_says_escort.php): > > If you think that’s not sex. let me ask you this: would you give naked “long strokes” to your dad? I wouldn’t French kiss my dad. But that does not meant that French kissing is sex. Or if it is, I lost my virginity waay earlier than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/234 "2010-05-07T16:10:47Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Not therapy, but gay rehab. > > Gayhab. > > Look for it in Webster’s 2013. > > -Joe ™ They already have a website. It’s [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com). > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > If you think that’s not sex. let me ask you this: would you give naked “long strokes” to your dad? That’s a question I’d be very afraid to hear answered by the 16 year old boy Rekers recently adopted. I’m not saying gays are more likely to molest kids obviously, but a 60 year old closeted chicken hawk so poor at self-control he just went on a spree with a kid not much older than that and adopted a post pubescant boy- you have to wonder if all is as it seems, and while I think if I raised Taylor Lautner from the cradle it would be impossible for me to notice he’s gorgeous, there are definitely some 16 year olds who’d give me less than pure thoughts if they were to walk around my house wearing just a towel and I think most straight middle aged guys would be the same way about 16 year old girls. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/235 "2010-05-07T16:12:23Z")
They tried to make me go to gayhab, and I said 'mo, 'mo, 'mo… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/236 "2010-05-07T16:16:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I wouldn’t French kiss my dad. But that does not meant that French kissing is sex. > > Or if it is, I lost my virginity waay earlier than I thought. Don’t be a weasel. Is a handjob sex, yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/237 "2010-05-07T16:16:44Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > They tried to make me go to gayhab, > and I said 'mo, 'mo, 'mo… And what did Rekers pay Lucien with? “Mo money, mo money…”. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/238 "2010-05-07T16:18:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Don’t be a weasel. Is a handjob sex, yes or no? I’m not Bricker (in spite of the frequent confusion of us when I’m in public), but I consider a handjob sex_UAL_ as opposed to sex if that makes any sense. I’d definitely wave a shotgun at any teenaged boy who got one from my daughter before packing her off to the convent, but I might not pull the trigger. If I had only had a handjob/given a handjob I would not consider myself a virgin nor would I consider that I had lost my virginity- it’s in that twilight area. Oral sex or anything else that can cause an STD is, imo, sex. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/239 "2010-05-07T16:20:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Actually, based on that conversation, it sounds to me like they didn’t have sex. When you say “they didn’t have sex”, are you supporting [Rekers’ claims](http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/05/22302) about their relationship? > [@](#): > > A recent article in an alternative newspaper cleverly gave false impressions of inappropriate behavior because of its misleading innuendo, incorrectly implying that Professor George Rekers used the Rentboy website to hire a prostitute to accompany him on a recent trip. Contrary to Internet stories based on this slanderous article, following medical advice Professor George Rekers requires an assistant to lift his luggage in his travels because of an ongoing condition following surgery. His family, local friends, and even another university professor colleague have offered to accompany him on trips to assist him in his travel. Dr. Rekers found his recent travel assistant by interviewing different people who might be able to help, and did not even find out about his travel assistant’s Internet advertisements offering prostitution activity until after the trip was in progress. There was nothing inappropriate with this relationship. Professor Rekers was not involved in any illegal or sexual behavior with his travel assistant. So do you in fact believe that Rekers was not involved in any illegal or sexual behavior with his travel assistant, or are you merely indulging in a pointless and tedious nitpicking lawyerwank about the precise definition of “having sex”? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/240 "2010-05-07T16:24:07Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > So do you in fact believe that Rekers was not involved in any illegal or sexual behavior with his travel assistant, or are you merely indulging in a pointless and tedious nitpicking lawyerwank about the precise definition of “having sex”? In post 227, **Bricker** seemed to agree with my guess that these massages had “happy endings” so I’m suspecting he means there wasn’t any penetrative sex going on, but that there was sexual activity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349.md?page=13)