# Another "Anti-Gay" Crusader Falls Out Of The Closet

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 5, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349 "2010-05-05T00:14:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/361 "2010-05-10T18:54:35Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> It is clearly and overtly male gay site.

What made you think that? Is the men performing oral sex on other men? There might be a perfectly reasonable explanation for that. 😉  
This is a theory I am pulling out of my youknowhere, so ingest with some sodium chloride.

Is it possible that the people at [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com) knew who Rekers was and alerted the media? They are getting a ton of publicity from mainstream media. If they didn’t, well, lucky them!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/362 "2010-05-10T19:05:10Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> Is it possible that the people at [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com) knew who Rekers was and alerted the media? They are getting a ton of publicity from mainstream media. If they didn’t, well, lucky them!

I’m going to give a fully amateur opinion and say no. Publicity is good…but only certain kinds of publicity. The “escort” industry’s standard disclaimers seem pretty flimsy to me, kind of like putting up a sign near your unfenced in-ground backyard swimming pool that says, “Entering this pool means that you agree not to hold the owner liable for injury or death incurred within this pool.” Not enforceable.

Which means that if a site like [Rentboy.com](http://Rentboy.com) gets the wrong kind of publicity (which is _massive indiscriminate publicity_), it can become a source of law enforcement stings on the escorts advertising within. As was posted before, this kind of thing is low-priority most of the time, but every now and then police departments get serious about prostitution (whether because of a mayoral election or whatever). Escorts don’t really want to be famous in a general way…if you’re TOO recognizable (and I have a feeling if Geo keeps getting exposure, it’ll happen to him), some people (especially closeted people) won’t want to hire you. Being “famous” among the community that hires escorts is good. Being famous on the wider scale is not.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/363 "2010-05-11T14:30:56Z")

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For those who were wondering how the reporters managed to get the scoop, this story sheds a little light.

> **[How Did the Miami New Times Catch George Rekers with a Rentboy?](https://www.gawker.com/5535825/how-did-the-miami-new-times-catch-george-rekers-with-a-rentboy)**
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> Catching a well-known homophobe in hot gay rentboy action is the dream of every budding young journalist. But short of following Rick Warren around with a camera all the time, how do you do it?

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/364 "2010-05-12T03:05:47Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I have in my mind the notion of a Perfect Cock. An imperfect being such as myself cannot imagine a Perfect Cock; therefore, the notion of a Perfect Cock must have originated from the Perfect Cock itself. Ergo, a Perfect Cock exists. Wanna see it?

This is St. Asshelm’s Ontological Argument. Refuted, of course, by Ganeschlong.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/365 "2010-05-12T05:22:55Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> This is St. Asshelm’s Ontological Argument. Refuted, of course, by Ganeschlong.

Posts like this are why I love the Dope- where else do you get crude sex jokes and medieval theology rolled into one package?

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/366 "2010-05-12T22:43:51Z")

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I’m usually not one in favor of kicking them while they’re down, but this story is just too good, and Rekers is just so loathsome that I can’t get enough. So, I can’t help but pass on a link to the new song, [“Rentboy.”](http://thefump.com/fump.php?id=1300)

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/367 "2010-05-13T13:52:56Z")

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Over on Christian Forums, an anti-gay member was spreading the usual BS about homosexuality, and cited NARTH as a source. May God forgive me for the glee I felt in quoting that passage and cite and responding with:

> [@me](#):
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> Oh yeah, NARTH, Dr. Rekers’ ministry. _Really_ reliable source.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/368 "2010-05-13T17:02:55Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Over on Christian Forums, an anti-gay member was spreading the usual BS about homosexuality, and cited NARTH as a source. May God forgive me for the glee I felt in quoting that passage and cite and responding with:
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Oh yeah, NARTH, Dr. Rekers’ ministry. Really reliable source.

Well, they didn’t just make this stuff up – they did extensive field research in England & Spain, hiring experienced experimental subjects from [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com). 🙂

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/369 "2010-05-13T18:27:47Z")

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> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
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> Well, they didn’t just make this stuff up – they did extensive field research in England & Spain, hiring experienced experimental subjects from [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com). 🙂

“So, after completing the conversion therapy, you no longer feel any desire to massage my private parts until I orgasm?”

“No, not at all.”

“Damn!”

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/370 "2010-05-14T04:11:58Z")

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[Rentboy.com](http://Rentboy.com)’s official response.

> [@](#):
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> We remain open-minded and devoted to privacy for the people who use our site, but we can’t take the risk out of leading a double life, or having a closeted or hypocritical career… If you’re a famous heterosexual homophobe and you appear in public with a rentboy with your pants down, you’re just asking for trouble.
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> If you would like to Take a Pornstar or Male Escort on Vacation, [Rentboy.com](http://Rentboy.com) is where you’ll find him. Excess baggage can indeed be heavy and there is nothing like a hot man to help you unload it.

Love it.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/371 "2010-05-14T12:12:44Z")

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[[QUOTE=rentboy.com](http://QUOTE=rentboy.com)]  
Excess baggage can indeed be heavy and there is nothing like a hot man to help you unload it.  
[/QUOTE]  
Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/372 "2010-05-14T19:02:54Z")

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BTW, has Rekers explained why he was in Europe in the first place?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/373 "2010-05-19T17:15:33Z")

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More Rekers fallout:

> [@](#):
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> [Scandal Stirs Legal Questions in Anti-Gay Cases](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/us/19rekers.html)
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> For years, George A. Rekers has held himself out as an expert witness in court on homosexuality, arguing in cases concerning same-sex marriage and gay adoption that gay men and lesbians lead parlous lives and raise troubled children.
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> Now Dr. Rekers himself is under fire, raising new legal questions about his courtroom role.
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> The Miami New Times, an alternative newspaper, revealed this month that Dr. Rekers took a 10-day trip to Europe with a male prostitute whom he apparently had met through a Web site, [rentboy.com](http://rentboy.com).
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> News coverage has focused largely on his seeming hypocrisy…
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> But legal experts say the scandal may affect more than Dr. Rekers’s reputation. They say it places obligations on those who have relied on Dr. Rekers to inform the court in at least one continuing case to modify or withdraw their arguments.
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> “Each lawyer must tell the court if he comes to know that one of his witnesses has given ‘false’ testimony,” said Stephen Gillers, an expert in legal ethics at New York University. That could come into play if the expert is discredited, he added…

Given how much the anti-gay movement has relied on this joker’s “research” to provide an intellectual veneer for their position, their sides of several ongoing court cases may be about to collapse like a soufflé in an earthquake.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/374 "2010-05-19T18:58:57Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> BTW, has Rekers explained why he was in Europe in the first place?

Apparently, because that’s where his rentboy wanted to go (and probably Rev. Rekers wanted to be far away from his flock, too).

In one of his statements, ‘Lucian’ indicated that he expressed a preference for London & Spain for this trip.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/375 "2010-05-19T20:47:55Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Over on Christian Forums, an anti-gay member was spreading the usual BS about homosexuality, and cited NARTH as a source. May God forgive me for the glee I felt in quoting that passage and cite and responding with:

I don’t know if that should be considered Epic Fail or Epic Win. Guess it depends on your viewpoint 😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/376 "2010-05-20T18:40:05Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Over on Christian Forums, an anti-gay member was spreading the usual BS about homosexuality, and cited NARTH as a source. May God forgive me for the glee I felt in quoting that passage and cite and responding with:
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Originally Posted by me  
> > Oh yeah, NARTH, Dr. Rekers’ ministry. Really reliable source.

Just in case, and so you don’t have to go away empty-handed, _ **I** _ forgive you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2010, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-anti-gay-crusader-falls-out-of-the-closet/538349/377 "2010-05-25T14:59:18Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I don’t know if that should be considered Epic Fail or Epic Win. Guess it depends on your viewpoint 😃

Definitely Epic Win. 😛

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