# Another Chimp Attack (South Africa)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 30, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857 "2012-06-30T22:50:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/21 "2012-07-02T22:49:34Z")

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The link up above only shows the kid’s before pic. Where are the after pics?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/22 "2012-07-02T23:05:13Z")

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There was another chimpanzee mauling in California in 2005. The victim’s name was St James Davis. If you do a Google search, you can find details of the case and see photos, which are not pleasant.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/23 "2012-07-03T04:51:51Z")

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> [@Farmer\_Jane](#):
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> The chimp was killed 😛

> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> No, one of the chimps was shot, but it was treated and will heal. The center decided that neither animal will be put to death.

I think **Farmer Jane** was replying to **drastic\_quench’s** (possibly facetious) comment about the lady who was mauled by a chimp in Connecticut.

> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Why would the police kill that poor woman!
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> “In the United States, a Connecticut woman, Charla Nash, was attacked in 2009 by a friend’s chimpanzee that ripped off her nose, lips, eyelids and hands before being killed by police.”

Two threads were merged, so the replies got a little intermingled.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/24 "2012-07-03T14:17:03Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I think **Farmer Jane** was replying to **drastic\_quench’s** (possibly facetious) comment about the lady who was mauled by a chimp in Connecticut.

Ah, yes. Well, that one was clearly suicide by cop.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/25 "2012-07-03T22:24:45Z")

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It’s funny in The Planet of the Apes lore chimpanzees were pacifists while the gorillas were militant and aggressive.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/26 "2012-07-03T23:28:09Z")

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I have a question. It seems to me that most chimpanzee attacks on humans have been by habituated chimps. Either by captive chimps kept as pets or formerly captive chimps being kept in sanctuaries or on preserves. You can even argue that Frodo, a truly wild chimp, was habituated to human contact in some degree.

Have there ever been documented attacks on humans by truly wild chimps that do not regularly encounter humans? Do they tend to shy away from man instead of acting aggressively to humans in their perceived territory?

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/27 "2012-07-03T23:56:38Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Have there ever been documented attacks on humans by truly wild chimps that do not regularly encounter humans? Do they tend to shy away from man instead of acting aggressively to humans in their perceived territory?

I’m not sure there are any such chimpanzee groups left. [In 2003, it was big news when they found a group with “little or no human contact”.](http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/1874.aspx) And of course, researchers flocked to the area. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/28 "2012-07-05T18:23:25Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> There was another chimpanzee mauling in California in 2005. The victim’s name was St James Davis. If you do a Google search, you can find details of the case and see photos, which are not pleasant.

Wow, [this was an incredible story about St. James Davis with a brutal ending](http://www.esquire.com/features/chimpanzee-attack-0409) though, as the article says, not what you would guess the ending to be.

Compelling reading. The pictures are not pretty.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/29 "2012-07-05T19:16:54Z")

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Considering our recent spate of genetic theorists, I’m relieved to find out that this was an actual chimp from South Africa.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/30 "2012-07-06T03:37:18Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> It sounds like the current victim lost his left arm and his toes, but kept his face, eyes, and balls.

Too bad he didn’t know about the Double Moe Defense.

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**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/31 "2012-07-06T03:47:53Z")

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Man, it does not pay to fuck with these animals. Or be around 'em, for that matter.

I admit to being a specieist(?). I generally take the attitude of keeping a wide berth of other animals, with the exception of the domesticated ones. And even some of them I give the stink eye.

I will happily watch chimps, apes, etc. on Discovery but I have no compunction to be within 100 yards of 'em. That goes for you too, bears, alligators, deer, etc.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-chimp-attack-south-africa/626857/32 "2012-07-06T03:55:13Z")

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When they learn sign language and _tell_ you they’re going to rip your balls off, you better fuckin’ pay attention.

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