# Another conservative caught with his pants down

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183 "2011-09-30T18:42:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/1 "2011-09-30T18:42:00Z")

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This time Steve Stevlic, head of the Chicago Tea Party and one of the organizers of TeaCon 2011.

Here is the story:

[http://gawker.com/5845373/top-tea-partier-parties-with-hookers](http://gawker.com/5845373/top-tea-partier-parties-with-hookers)

> [@](#):
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> Stevlic describes himself as an ordinary guy; a good, decent family man with a wife, two kids, and no pretensions. His humility and ideological fervor have earned him friendly profiles at CTV and the Guardian, and quotes on Fox News and The Hill. At TeaCon, he’ll spend the next two days shaking hands, buddying up with Herman Cain, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart and the other assorted big guns flying in for the revelry…
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> Since this is gonna be such a high-profile occasion, perhaps this would be a good time for Stevlic to take the opportunity to apologize for his rank hypocrisy last September, when he took to his Twitter feed to mock and condemn Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr., for his two-year-old extra-marital affair. Perhaps because of Twitter’s character limit, Stevlic neglected to mention that, two months earlier, he’d been arrested for soliciting a prostitute. See that pic up there? That’s his mugshot. It was featured for a few weeks on the Chicago PD website and then removed. Nobody reported on the arrest, and when Stevlic took to his Twitter feed to mock Jackson, Jr., he must’ve thought nobody noticed.

So, am I the only one wondering if the prostitute in question was male or female?

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/2 "2011-09-30T18:45:02Z")

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Also, I got a kick out of this comment that someone posted to that story:

> [@](#):
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> They’re not hookers.
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> They’re (blow) job creators.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/3 "2011-09-30T18:45:36Z")

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It’s not hypocrisy, it’s _job creation_! 😉  
D’oh! I’m too slow…

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/4 "2011-09-30T19:06:55Z")

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I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/5 "2011-09-30T19:09:38Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/6 "2011-09-30T19:10:09Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.

Al Gore will be relieved to hear that.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/7 "2011-09-30T19:20:57Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Cite?

Bill Clinton, perhaps.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/8 "2011-09-30T19:25:07Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their **professional stance.**

Unless it happens to be a wide stance.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/9 "2011-09-30T19:27:11Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.

Heh. It’s the advantage of being the party of loose sexual morals: when we do it, it’s not hypocritical. Just like it’s not hypocritical when Republicans take massive bribes from corporations.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/10 "2011-09-30T19:46:10Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. .

Well, if wasn’t _paying_ for the blow job…

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/11 "2011-09-30T20:02:23Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> So, am I the only one wondering if the prostitute in question was male or female?

If he was arrested at 6800 W Cermak (per the mugshot), it was most certainly a female streetwalker (undercover cop) that he tried to pick up.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/12 "2011-09-30T21:20:53Z")

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Everytime something like this comes up, I always wonder why would a high level public official seek hookers in the first place ? Rich, powerful, often reasonably handsome/charismatic… if they’d just gone to the average singles bar they’d get all the tail they could possibly handle. But no, it’s gotta be the hooker in the sordid alley with the candlestick.

I don’t get it. I really don’t.

[QUOTE=Scylla]  
I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.   
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Just so we’re clear here, are you making a joke about the hypocrisy of pointing fingers at a Republican getting a blowjob… from a hooker… which he got arrested for by the police… when the whole Clinton shtick is categorized as no big deal by Libs ; or a more intellectually honest joke about the fact that the very concept of sex scandals in politics is stupid, especially when coupled with blind partisanship ?

I honestly can’t tell.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/13 "2011-09-30T21:22:57Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Just so we’re clear here, are you making a joke about the hypocrisy of pointing fingers at a Republican getting a blowjob… from a hooker… which he got arrested for by the police… when the whole Clinton shtick is categorized as no big deal by Libs ; or a more intellectually honest joke about the fact that the very concept of sex scandals in politics is stupid, especially when coupled with blind partisanship ?
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> I honestly can’t tell.

It looks to me like he’s actually taking a jab at Republicans. But this is **Scylla** , so I’m confused.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/14 "2011-09-30T21:33:45Z")

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Eh, sometimes you accidentally stab yourself. What are you gonna do?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/15 "2011-09-30T21:35:45Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> This time Steve Stevlic, head of the Chicago Tea Party and one of the organizers of TeaCon 2011.
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> Here is the story:
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> [http://gawker.com/5845373/top-tea-partier-parties-with-hookers](http://gawker.com/5845373/top-tea-partier-parties-with-hookers)
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> So, am I the only one wondering if the prostitute in question was male or female?

Someone will be in in a minute to derail the thread into a discussion of the definition of “hypocrisy”.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/16 "2011-09-30T22:09:22Z")

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I’m starting to believe conservatives should have their pants stapled on at birth.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/17 "2011-09-30T22:22:20Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Just so we’re clear here, are you making a joke about the hypocrisy of pointing fingers at a Republican getting a blowjob… from a hooker… which he got arrested for by the police… when the whole Clinton shtick is categorized as no big deal by Libs ; or a more intellectually honest joke about the fact that the very concept of sex scandals in politics is stupid, especially when coupled with blind partisanship ?
> 
> I honestly can’t tell.

I think Scylla’s trying to pretend that we’re hypocrites for scolding this fine, upstanding conservative, Steve Stevlic, for patronizing prostitutes while we blow-off the conservative scolding of Bill Clinton for having consensual sex with a non-prostitute. Also, Scylla’s ignoring the fact that what we’re actually doing is laughing at Steve Stevlic for chastising someone else’s marital affairs while being an adulterous john himself.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/18 "2011-09-30T22:28:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Stevlic describes himself as an ordinary guy; a good, decent family man with a wife, two kids, and no pretensions.

Then partying with hookers would be ordinary behavior.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/19 "2011-09-30T22:46:33Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> I can’t believe you left wing liberal scum making such a big deal over a politician getting a blowjob. We Republicans know that the fallibility of an individual’s private life in no way reflects on the validity of their professional stance.

I feel people should be held to the moral standards they espouse. That’s why I felt Eliot Spitzer needed to resign when I didn’t think there was cause for Bill Clinton to do so.

But anyone who condemns other people for extramarital sex, like Stevlic has done, deserves to be condemned if he engages in extramarital sex.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-conservative-caught-with-his-pants-down/598183/20 "2011-09-30T22:46:53Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Everytime something like this comes up, I always wonder why would a high level public official seek hookers in the first place ? Rich, powerful, often reasonably handsome/charismatic… if they’d just gone to the average singles bar they’d get all the tail they could possibly handle. But no, it’s gotta be the hooker in the sordid alley with the candlestick.
> 
> I don’t get it. I really don’t.

You pay them to go away after it’s over. You can also pay them to do weird things. And you can more easily abuse them or feel morally superior during the act.

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