# Another Crappy Teacher: Mocking Muslim Student

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 4, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723 "2011-05-04T17:49:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/21 "2011-05-04T23:20:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The solution I’d suggest is to hold a school assembly with the teacher seated on stage while the principal described the details of the exchange, then looks at the teacher with an expression of contempt, says “That was a fucking dumbass thing to do!” and after that the matter is dropped and everyone gets on with their lives. No lawsuit, no forced apologies, just a public rebuking.

This really needs to happen more often.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/22 "2011-05-05T00:16:34Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> This really needs to happen more often.

Sadly, it leads directly to a lawsuit. 'Sides, in my neck of the woods at least, it would be apt to happen over things like my friend “Teresa,” a schoolteacher, getting outed as a lesbian.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/23 "2011-05-05T01:00:15Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> My first on seeing the OP was “please don’t be in Tennessee, please don’t be in Tennessee..”
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> ETA - woot!

Funny, I didn’t think of that but we sure get above average bad press over someone’s stupidity don’t we?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/24 "2011-05-05T01:05:12Z")

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At the very least hat teacher needs to apologize to her entire class and that student specifically. In fact, an assembly might be called for but I don’t expect that. I hope they do insist on an apology, perhaps a verbal, and then a written one. That was an incredibly thoughtless, cruel, and stupid thing for anyone top do, much less someone who chose to teach.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/25 "2011-05-05T01:41:20Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Jesus Christ on Cracker, how ridiculous are some people.

I dunno, but I hear Mohammed on a Pita with Hummus is delicious.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/26 "2011-05-05T13:23:42Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> What’s offensive about being thought of as a Muslim? It’s her ignorance.

So in your little world **all** Muslims are grieving about Bin Ladin?

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**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/27 "2011-05-05T14:38:13Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’d cry, too, if I was a kid. I just found out an acquaintance thinks I am Muslim. **Why she thinks this I have no idea.** I’ve only met her once or twice. I never indicated any sort of religion around her, at all. So it’s totally racist - purely on skin color. I am brown, ergo Muslim.
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> It’s fucking rude and offensive. **She also thinks Muslims all wear turbans and put bombs in the turbans.** Her petty ignorance would make me insane if I let myself care about it at all.
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> But I am thirty-five and self-confident, and not being told this by someone in authority. :rolleyes:

(emphasis added)  
Maybe you should stop wearing a turban then.😉

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/28 "2011-05-05T15:07:38Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> It’s fucking rude and offensive. She also thinks Muslims all wear turbans and put bombs in the turbans.

No, no, no! They have Lord Voldemort’s face on the backs of their heads, and the turban is hiding it! He’d get PISSED if they tried to put bombs in the turbans, too.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/29 "2011-05-05T15:10:23Z")

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> [@yojimbo](#):
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> So in your little world **all** Muslims are grieving about Bin Ladin?

In my part of the world, no Muslims are. 🙂

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/30 "2011-05-05T15:17:00Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The solution I’d suggest is to hold a school assembly with the teacher seated on stage while the principal described the details of the exchange, then looks at the teacher with an expression of contempt, says “That was a fucking dumbass thing to do!” and after that the matter is dropped and everyone gets on with their lives. No lawsuit, no forced apologies, just a public rebuking.

I don’t think this is an acceptable solution.

I think you’re forgetting a key component to what I believe the teacher tried to do. That is that teenagers are vile shits (Not much different from adults in that way.) who will turn on each other like sharks in a feeding frenzy with the slightest encouragement. When an authority figure chooses to single out a student for public humiliation that is a sign to the class that this person is fair game. It is an open invitation for the class to join in the humiliation and effort to make the chosen target feel completely worthless and ostracized.

Which doesn’t begin to mention just how fucking vile it is for a teacher to choose to rag on someone whom he or she believes to be unable to respond to their mocking.

In this case, the teacher misjudged his students, and they rejected the example he tried to present to them. That is not how I’d expect the majority of similar situations to work out. It’s far more common in my experience for the students to take such implied permissions to the limit.

No one who uses their position of authority in this manner is fit to be around adolescents. He needs to be fired.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/31 "2011-05-05T15:35:27Z")

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[This blogger](http://muslimsareterrorists.wordpress.com/) has a … different … take on this story.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/32 "2011-05-05T15:47:05Z")

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Jesus Christ on a cracker, people need to treat other people’s religions with respect. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/33 "2011-05-05T16:12:47Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> [This blogger](http://muslimsareterrorists.wordpress.com/) has a … different … take on this story.

And…scene…

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/34 "2011-05-05T16:25:06Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> [This blogger](http://muslimsareterrorists.wordpress.com/) has a … different … take on this story.

Poe’s Law has never applied harder.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/35 "2011-05-05T16:29:56Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> [This blogger](http://muslimsareterrorists.wordpress.com/) has a … different … take on this story.

I really wish you’d included a fucking idiot warning with that link.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/36 "2011-05-05T16:45:41Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Poe’s Law has never applied harder.

It aint funny when the satirist tries too hard and fails to deliver the appropriate level of crazyness. Like here.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/37 "2011-05-05T18:42:15Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> It’s offensive because the person has taken datapoint about **Mika** – the color of her skin, too dark to be white but too light to be black – and assumed that she can deduce an important part of Mika’s character: her religious faith. It is no less offensive thanit would be if I assumed my friend Andy Cohen was cheap.

With one addition, as IvoryTowerDenizen says. Being Muslim is bad in her eyes. So in her eyes, she has automatically assumed I am Muslim and a terrorist based on nothing more than her ignorance.

And it is rude. I’m _American_. My parents brought me 7,000 miles to be here. I took citizenship vows. If there was a war between the US and India I’d be sad but there wouldn’t even be a moment’s hesitation in which side I’d fight on. And LOTS and LOTS of people in the US are “other” than Christian, but so many Christians never seem to get it.

It’s just that fucking “us” vs. “them” mentality and I am automatically grouped in the “them” solely because of my skin tone.

And goddamnit GIRLS DON’T WEAR TURBANS except in plays sometimes!

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/38 "2011-05-05T18:48:54Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> With one addition, as IvoryTowerDenizen says. Being Muslim is bad in her eyes. So in her eyes, she has automatically assumed I am Muslim and a terrorist based on nothing more than her ignorance.

Well, you ARE internet friends with a notorious pretend villain. That’s suspicious. 😉 And at least now you have a datapoint about her: that she’s a hateful twit. It’s useful to know where those are.

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/39 "2011-05-05T18:52:40Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> And goddamnit GIRLS DON’T WEAR TURBANS except in plays sometimes!

Do that many _male_ Muslims wear turbans? Keffiyehs, skullcaps, yes, but turbans?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crappy-teacher-mocking-muslim-student/580723/40 "2011-05-05T19:04:07Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Do that many _male_ Muslims wear turbans? Keffiyehs, skullcaps, yes, but turbans?

[Many people, especially hateful twits, neither know nor care about the difference between Muslim & Sikh.](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41962756/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/mistaken-muslims-sikhs-hit-hate-crimes/)

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