# Another Crazy Ass Witch Arrested **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 13, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685 "2009-06-13T20:04:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/1 "2009-06-13T20:04:51Z")
[Activist Shawna Forde charged in double slaying.](http://heraldnet.com/article/20090613/NEWS01/706139922) I read about originally a few months ago. She’s the head of a group called [Minuteman American Defense](http://minutemenamericandefense.org/index.htm) and is no stranger to [trouble](http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070803/NEWS01/708030366). And even more [trouble](http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090222/NEWS01/702229930). ---
**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/2 "2009-06-13T20:41:04Z")
So she commits murder in order to obtain money to curb illegal immigration? ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/3 "2009-06-13T23:46:28Z")
> [@Mikemike2](#): > > So she commits murder in order to obtain money to curb illegal immigration? …in the name of her group, which has the motto of “Rule of Law” on one of its seals. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/4 "2009-06-14T00:10:49Z")
The thread topic maligns the insane, the posterior-challenged, and Wiccans. ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/5 "2009-06-14T00:14:30Z")
This is why we shouldn’t humor crazy people. At one time, this woman was probably only borderline insane. Possibly even normal. And then someone thought it was cute when she proposed insane theories, and thought it was cute when she flew off the handle about an invisible ding on her car door, and next thing you know, full-blown crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/6 "2009-06-14T02:20:47Z")
> [@Mikemike2](#): > > So she commits murder in order to obtain money to curb illegal immigration? Her [syntax and spelling](http://minutemenamericandefense.org/pages/shawnas_corner.htm)’s pretty criminal, too. I really like this part : [QUOTE=crazy ass bitch] After they cross the border they are taking over area’s of our cities, neighborhoods, schools with their way of life witch is: 1 Corruption **2 Lie’s** 3 Drug dealing 4 welfare fraud **5 stealing** 6 Filthiness **7 Gang code of ethics** **8 violence 9 no respect for existing Americans** **10 Hate** [/QUOTE] Which means she’s, in fact, stealing their job. How do they like \*them \*apples, huh ?! ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/7 "2009-06-14T06:27:49Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > The thread topic maligns the insane, the posterior-challenged, and Wiccans. I opened the thread hoping to find out what an Ass Witch was. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/8 "2009-06-14T07:48:33Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I opened the thread hoping to find out what an Ass Witch was. It’s like a Ditch Witch, but for your ass. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/9 "2009-06-14T08:00:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Raul Flores, 29, and his daughter, Brisenia, 9, were killed when a group of armed people, including a woman, forced their way into the home. The child’s mother traded gunfire with the attackers. She survived but remains hospitalized with gunshot wounds. Damn, it’s like a scene out of a movie. I’ll bet Forde’s a Freeper. That poor little girl. > [@](#): > > Pima County officials said the intruders had been looking for the couple’s other daughter to shoot her, too, but she wasn’t home. I’ll bet the Ass Witch is big on (white people’s) “family values,” besides God, country and flag. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/10 "2009-06-14T08:08:25Z")
What exactly is an “Ass Witch”? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/11 "2009-06-14T08:48:34Z")
I have no idea, but it sounds good. Ask the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/12 "2009-06-14T11:35:01Z")
This is yet another case of a right-wing hate crime. Will the “liberal media” (_snort_) treat the murders of Brisenia Flores and Raul Flores as such, putting it alongside and on par with the murder of Dr. Tiller and the murder of Stephen T. Johns? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/13 "2009-06-14T14:27:32Z")
> [@](#): > > What exactly is an “ass witch”? Apply directly to your ass! Apply directly to your ass! Apply directly to your ass! ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/14 "2009-06-14T14:51:37Z")
She’s the new Charlie Manson! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/15 "2009-06-14T15:43:38Z")
I see no citation in any of the articles to indicate that Forde was a witch. I think you owe witches an apology. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/16 "2009-06-14T17:01:48Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > I see no citation in any of the articles to indicate that Forde was a witch. I think you owe witches an apology. But the OP says she’s an Ass witch. I think he’s on solid ground here. No apology necessary. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/17 "2009-06-14T18:00:02Z")
I really enjoy it when someone doing name-calling throws in a female-specific insult when the target is female. A woman can’t just be crazy, she’s a crazy _witch_. Which we all know is usually code for _bitch_. To paraphrase an old SNL skit – I think Jane Curtain was the speaker – woman have more “dirty parts” than men, and also more insulting nouns used to describe them. The worst you can call a man is a word like dick or prick that is slang for penis. Of course, you can call him a son of a bitch, but that’s just full circle, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/18 "2009-06-14T18:08:20Z")
In that case, she’s stark bollock crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/19 "2009-06-14T18:22:41Z")
I, too, thought the thread was going to be about something one of my fellow Wiccans had done. Goddess knows there’s enough crazy-ass Wiccans out there. ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685/20 "2009-06-15T04:20:49Z")
> [@Claire\_Beauchamp](#): > > …woman have more “dirty parts” than men, and also more insulting nouns used to describe them. The worst you can call a man is a word like dick or prick that is slang for penis. Of course, you can call him a son of a bitch, but that’s just full circle, isn’t it? Is there any evidence at all that this is true? It all seems like obvious nonsense. A man is a prick, a bastard, a dickhead, a turd, a wanker, an arsehole, a douchebag and literally thousands of others in common usage. If all you can think of is “prick” then you really aren’t trying. And those are terms that are exlcusively or primarily applied to males. Never in my entire life heard a female referred to as a wanker or a turd. Women get called a bitch, whore or slut. That’s it pretty much it. Even the feminine terms “pussy” and “cunt” are used exclusively to describe men. So where the hell did you get the idea that there are more obscene names for women than men? It rather obviously isn’t true. And women have more dirty parts? Really? So “Ovaries” is an offensive term, like balls, bollocks, cods etc are? And labia is as offensive as “ballbag” or “sack” and “clitoris” is as offensive as “dickhead” and so forth? The vast majority of female counterparts of male “dirty” parts don’t even have any common name. They are only ever known by their anatomical name. Once again the statement seems rather obviously untrue. Males have far more “dirty” bits simply because the male genitalia is so prominent that crude terms have developed to describe them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-crazy-ass-witch-arrested/499685.md?page=2)