# Another Critical Race Theory thread

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 4, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-critical-race-theory-thread/941389 "2021-05-04T19:44:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-critical-race-theory-thread/941389/684 "2021-05-24T16:01:22Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Part of the myth about Chinese immigrants to the US is that they were _uniquely_ interested in education–and that, as a corollary, other groups are at fault for their low standardized test scores because of their inferior culture.

I think the second part is something that white people add to either shame blacks or to accuse asians of racism. Asians don’t think blacks value education less than we do. We think that EVERYONE values education less that we do. By far the largest group that asians have displaced in competitive schools are white kids. The disparity between whites and blacks cannot be explained by the disparity between asians and anyone else.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The necessary historical context is that, starting in the latter half of the twentieth century, Chinese immigrants were encouraged,

The necessary historical context is also that asians were already a model minority. White supremacists didn’t create asian success they used it to try and disguise the fact that racism is the cause of much of the black white disparity.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> some subset of immigrants from certain areas of Asia emphasize academic success

This subset of asians from confucian countries accounts for the majority of asian americans.  
If you add indian american (the most affluent well educated asian american group that is in fact pretty self selected), filipino american, (the second most affluent asian amercan group, which is also largely self selected), and pakistani americans, you have covered over 95% of asians.

I don’t see why we have to bring black academic success into a discussion about asian academic success unless you think one has something to do with the other?

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> if you’re just like, “THIS GROUP HAS A BETTER CULTURE,” I’m gonna suspect you have a reason for the elision.

YOu can suspect all you want but if youa re going to call every attempt to point out differences in culture as the source of disparities in outcome, you are simply ignoring evidence because it offends your sensibilities. Aren’t you?

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