# Another Doper Census Poll: Educational Attainment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 8, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097 "2009-10-08T20:10:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/1 "2009-10-08T20:10:36Z")

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Check whichever is applicable to you. (If you’re a non-U.S. Doper reinterpret as to whichever is the most similar to your degree.) I would equate a JD as a Masters more than a doctorate, while medical degrees are clearly equal to or greater than Ph.Ds in the amount of formal education, but your mileage may vary, so answer which seems appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/2 "2009-10-08T20:30:50Z")

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This is related to the income thread btw. I’d love to do a census of sorts with several questions but I’m not sure how to do more than one poll question at a time.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/3 "2009-10-08T21:08:11Z")

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What if you’re still in school?

ETA: Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/4 "2009-10-09T06:51:22Z")

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No Associates degree option, so no voting.

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**Author:** ![JoseArcadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc348/32.png) [@JoseArcadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseArcadio)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/5 "2009-10-09T08:19:27Z")

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“Graduated” high-school (it’s structured differently from the US in Scotland). I got AABB at Higher level and one B at Advanced Higher so was able to attend university. However, I dropped out without gaining a degree.

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/6 "2009-10-09T16:55:14Z")

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As a senior in high school (I graduated in '79), I tentatively asked my mother about going to college. She just dismissed me with “we can’t afford that”. I wasn’t even aware there were programs to help with that. . .

However, I’ve worked with the public for most of my life, and just about everyone assumes I’m college educated. Know why? Because I have a good vocabulary. Apparently, that’s all it takes. 😕

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**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/7 "2009-10-09T17:34:00Z")

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Just a nitpick. A census is a complete count. A poll is, well, this is a poll. It would be a census if you planned to pursure getting an answer from EVERYONE.

Masters degree here. I just wasn’t a good enough student to go all the way.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/8 "2009-10-09T17:40:36Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> No Associates degree option, so no voting.

Ditto.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/9 "2009-10-10T14:02:52Z")

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Three categories for people with degrees but everyone from third grade dropouts to high school graduates to college dropouts are lumped into a single category?

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/10 "2009-10-10T14:40:46Z")

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I would propose adding professional degree (i.e., MD, DDS, JD, DVM, etc.) as a choice. They’re not really equivalent to a Ph.D., but graduate degree to me sounds like a master’s.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-doper-census-poll-educational-attainment/513097/11 "2009-10-10T18:54:25Z")

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This poll needs an option for “trade/vocational school graduate”. The lack of such an option is one reason I stopped participating in Harris Polls. The closest-to-correct answer they had an option for was “Some college, no degree”, which to me implied “college dropout”. I’m a vocational school graduate, but my diploma is not a “degree”.
