# Another enema perhaps?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [August 28, 2001, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483 "2001-08-28T05:43:34Z")
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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/1 "2001-08-28T05:43:34Z")

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LOL…just kidding! No more links…I promised Jill and the nice staffers here at the Straight Dope! I had gotten alot of messages in email that people had responded to my last message, unfortunately, by the time I came back they were deleted. So…I don’t know if they were bad or good…guess what I don’t know won’t hurt me?!

Without further blathering…how about Bush for “Public Enema” of the day:

The Intelligence of our Presidents  
\> \>  
\> \>  
\> \>  
\> \>  
\> \>  
\> \>  
\> \> Bakersville News Service  
\> \> \> \>\> 6-28-01 12:32 PM CST by Jennifer L. Borenstein  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> The intelligence of our presidents has never been  
\> \> seriously scrutinized at  
\> \> \>\> any time in our history until now. There is a widespread  
\> \> perception that  
\> \> \>\> President GW Bush is not qualified for the position he  
\> \> holds. That  
\> \> \>\> increasing awareness by the people has led to a study of  
\> \> the intellectual  
\> \> \>\> ability of all presidents for the past fifty years.  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> There have been twelve presidents in that time, from F.  
\> \> D. Roosevelt to G.  
\> \> \>\> W. Bush. All were rated based on any scholarly  
\> \> achievements, writings that  
\> \> \>\> they alone wrote, their ability to speak effectively, and  
\> \> several other  
\> \> \>\> psychological factors. The conclusions of the study,  
\> \> conducted by an  
\> \> \>\> independent think tank located in Scranton, Pennsylvania  
\> \> were surprising.  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> This think tank includes high caliber historians,  
\> \> psychiatrists,  
\> \> \>\> sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and  
\> \> psychologists. Among their  
\> \> \>\> ranks are Dr. Werner Levenstein, world-renowned  
\> \> sociologist, and Professor  
\> \> \>\> Patricia A. Williams, a world-respected psychiatrist. All  
\> \> members of the  
\> \> \>\> think tank are experts at being able to detect a person’s  
\> \> IQ from the  
\> \> \>\> criteria stated earlier. After four months of research,  
\> \> these learned men  
\> \> \>\> and women have determined the IQs of each president  
\> \> within a range of five  
\> \> \>\> percentage points. The IQs listed below are the norms for  
\> \> each president.  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 132 Harry Truman (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 122 Dwight D. Eisenhower ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 174 John F. Kennedy (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 155 Richard M. Nixon ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 121 Gerald Ford ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 175 James E. Carter (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 105 Ronald Reagan ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 99 George HW Bush ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 182 William J. Clinton (D)  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> 91 George W. Bush ®  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> The non-partisan researchers who evaluated the twelve  
\> \> presidents determined  
\> \> \>\> that the six Republican presidents for the past 50 years  
\> \> had an average IQ  
\> \> \>\> of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at  
\> \> 155. President G.  
\> \> \>\> W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with  
\> \> an IQ of 91.  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of  
\> \> 156, with President  
\> \> \>\> Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182. President Lyndon  
\> \> B. Johnson was  
\> \> \>\> rated the lowest of all the Democrats with an IQ of 126.  
\> \> The margin of  
\> \> \>\> error  
\> \> \>\> is plus or minus five percent. This study was initiated  
\> \> on February 13,  
\> \> \>\> 2001  
\> \> \>\> and completed on June 17, 2001.  
\> \> \>\>  
\> \> \>\> This study validated the widespread feeling of people  
\> \> about the sitting  
\> \> \>\> president. President Bush was rated low because of his  
\> \> inability to command  
\> \> \>\> the English language, his lack of any scholarly  
\> \> achievements, and an  
\> \> \>\> absence  
\> \> \>\> of anything authored by him that would reflect an  
\> \> intellectual effort.

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They tell me if you really want to see the link to my board…you can get it by clicking on my profile…hint, hint. Take good care…Chava

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### Author: ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/2 "2001-08-28T05:59:20Z")

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> **[Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com)**
>
> The definitive Internet reference source for urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation.

Go memorize it.

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/3 "2001-08-28T06:08:08Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by andygirl \*  
> \*\*[http://www.snopes.com](http://www.snopes.com)
> 
> Go memorize it. \*\*

I already have a good site that I go to…but thanks all the same. Not sure I understand tho…Chava

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### Author: ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/4 "2001-08-28T06:16:06Z")

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The forward you just posted is fake.

[http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm)

Disliking the man is one thing, but disliking him because of stupid forwards and lies is ridiculous.

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/5 "2001-08-28T06:21:18Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by andygirl \*  
> \*\*The forward you just posted is fake.
> 
> [http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm)
> 
> Disliking the man is one thing, but disliking him because of stupid forwards and lies is ridiculous. \*\*

Oh, give me a break…it isn’t meant to be serious…it’s called a joke…tongue in cheek…whatever. I thought it was obvious enough and needed no disclaimer. Have a great night…Chava

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### Author: ![andygirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@andygirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andygirl)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/6 "2001-08-28T06:32:50Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Chavaa \*  
> \*\*The intelligence of our presidents has never been  
> \> \> seriously scrutinized at  
> \> \> \>\> any time in our history until now.
> 
> All were rated based on any scholarly  
> \> \> achievements, writings that  
> \> \> \>\> they alone wrote, their ability to speak effectively, and  
> \> \> several other  
> \> \> \>\> psychological factors. The conclusions of the study,  
> \> \> conducted by an  
> \> \> \>\> independent think tank located in Scranton, Pennsylvania  
> \> \> were surprising.  
> \> \> \>\>  
> \> \> \>\> This think tank includes high caliber historians,  
> \> \> psychiatrists,  
> \> \> \>\> sociologists, scientists in human behavior, and  
> \> \> psychologists. Among their  
> \> \> \>\> ranks are Dr. Werner Levenstein, world-renowned  
> \> \> sociologist, and Professor  
> \> \> \>\> Patricia A. Williams, a world-respected psychiatrist. All  
> \> \> members of the  
> \> \> \>\> think tank are experts at being able to detect a person’s  
> \> \> IQ from the  
> \> \> \>\> criteria stated earlier. After four months of research,  
> \> \> these learned men  
> \> \> \>\> and women have determined the IQs of each president  
> \> \> within a range of five  
> \> \> \>\> percentage points. The IQs listed below are the norms for  
> \> \> each president
> 
> \> \> \>\> This study validated the widespread feeling of people  
> \> \> about the sitting  
> \> \> \>\> president. President Bush was rated low because of his  
> \> \> inability to command  
> \> \> \>\> the English language, his lack of any scholarly  
> \> \> achievements, and an  
> \> \> \>\> absence  
> \> \> \>\> of anything authored by him that would reflect an  
> \> \> intellectual effort.\*\*

Because all of these statements obviously illustrate biting satire that Joe Inbox will recognize as a jolly lark?

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/7 "2001-08-28T06:47:59Z")

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I thought it was funny…sue me, lol. Night…Chava

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### Author: ![Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtar)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/8 "2001-08-28T06:57:18Z")

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Here at the SDMB, we like to promote the message of anti-ignorance. A joke is all well and good–but remember that in the future, mm?

I’m actually surprised to see you back at the boards–after the “Public Enema” gimmick you posted last time, I expected you would just move along.

So…let me be one of the first to welcome you to the SDMB! Have a look around the boards, browse the threads, and post if you have something you’d like to add.

-Ashley

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/9 "2001-08-28T07:18:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Ashtar \*  
> \*\*Here at the SDMB, we like to promote the message of anti-ignorance. A joke is all well and good–but remember that in the future, mm?
> 
> I’m actually surprised to see you back at the boards–after the “Public Enema” gimmick you posted last time, I expected you would just move along.
> 
> -Ashley \*\*

Hi Ashley…I don’t know about most here…but I am 46 years old…have 3 boards of my own and am not used to being scolded on how to post, lol…I feel like my 6 year old! I posted the joke because I thought it was funny…there were no motives, just a joke. After looking around…your “anti-ignorance” message seems to be ignored by most. Posts about sex, smoking dope, urinating…but I’M promoting ignorance with a simple joke?

don’t get me wrong…I appreciate the welcome…could have just done without the little comments. As far as my last post…it was not a “gimmick”. I allow other people to post their links on my board and have never had a problem, in the whole time since I’ve had boards, leaving my link on like boards. I also left the link up on my board to this one…and would have posted it anyway as that is what I usually do. I had some real nice correspondence from the staff here and worked it out…thought I’d drop by and post since I had so much traffic on my board from this site…I was truly surprised…pleasantly so. However…if this is going to be a big deal…or people have some sort of hard on because of it…then I’ll leave. It was not my intent to come here to argue…and guess I’m a bit surprised that no sooner did I post that my 2 responses were just that.

I hope you have a good night…take care…Chava

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### Author: ![Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtar)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/10 "2001-08-28T07:37:13Z")

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Ahh–it was not the joke itself, my fine friend, it was the fact that you presented it as factual. Whether you knew it was a joke or not, rumors fly abound so much on the internet that one can never be too careful.

As for your comment on the other threads–well–yea! Just because we promote **Cecil’s Plan** of no ignorance doesn’t mean that we’re devoid of character or personality! 🙂 The whole of MPSIMS is practically devoted to the pursuit of it.

It’s just that as a whole, and I realize I speak for everyone when I say this–but I feel comfortable in my judgment…

As a whole–we **do not put stock in urban legends.**

Seeya 'round.  
-Ashley

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/11 "2001-08-28T07:46:17Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Ashtar \*  
> \*\*Ahh–it was not the joke itself, my fine friend, it was the fact that you presented it as factual. Whether you knew it was a joke or not, rumors fly abound so much on the internet that one can never be too careful.  
> As a whole–we **do not put stock in urban legends.**
> 
> Seeya 'round.  
> -Ashley \*\*

Gosh, Ash…I don’t really know anyone that does, yanno? We’re not talking about kidneys being taken out in the middle of the night while we sleep…or syringes in McDonalds ball playpen…or even rat urine in coke, …we’re talking about Bush here, lol…one of the biggest jokes around, har! Mattafact…even discussing the ignorance of this whole thing is a joke. Have a good one…Chava

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### Author: ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/12 "2001-08-28T12:49:26Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by Chavaa \*  
> **Hi Ashley…I don’t know about most here…but I am 46 years old…have 3 boards of my own…**

Links?

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### Author: ![Chavaa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Chavaa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chavaa)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/13 "2001-08-28T15:59:31Z")

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Links? \*\*  
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Hi, Anthracite…not allowed to post links…that’s how I got in trouble in the first place, lol. However…I’m told you are allowed to look in my profile. Take good care…Chava

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### Author: ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)
#### Post date: [August 28, 2001, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-enema-perhaps/78483/14 "2001-08-28T16:28:56Z")

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**Moderator’s Notes:** Great. More ridiculous glurge. Try this thread for a semi-rational discussion of that particular piece (in addition to one of Cecil’s columns). Your original post is there in a readable format without all the “less-than” signs.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=75353](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=75353)

This thread is closed.
