# Another Example of Atheists Destroying Christian's Rights **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 30, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555 "2012-05-30T16:52:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/281 "2012-05-31T16:05:26Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Of all the posts you could have quoted to prop a righteous tssk-tssk bluenose prancing around to try and gain a false semblance of a moral high ground, \*this \*is the one you picked ? > [@GEEPERS](#): > > Is that a demonstration of your moral compass? > [@GEEPERS](#): > > Now you demonstrate the true Modus operandi of atheists who eagerly particular in these topics. Bravo. > [@runner pat](#): > > No, you take pleasure in condemning them. **This ends immediately. Personal comments and insults about other users are not allowed in this forum: this is not a debate about the morality of an individual user, it’s about ideas.** ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/282 "2012-05-31T16:14:09Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > What I’m seeing here is the problem with public schools. The entire public school program has to fit in with all the objectives and constraints of the state, not with the more limited objectives of the local majorities of parents. Not really democratic. That’s not a problem. It’s a feature. Public schools are, as the name implies, educational institutions. They’re not churches. You might as well complain that the problem with supermarkets is that they can’t put up Christian decorations because they might offend their heathen shoppers. Well, no shit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/283 "2012-05-31T16:14:45Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **GEEPERS** , let me ask you something. > > IF THE BANNER IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF CHRISTIANITY, HOW CAN REMOVING IT BE AN ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS? Is studying evolution in school an endorsement of atheism ? Or rather, If the study of evolution is not an endorsement of atheism is banning the study of evolution an attack on atheists ? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/284 "2012-05-31T16:15:44Z")
Look, Johnny-come-lately, I put that in giant text because **GEEPERS** has been asked that question 30 times and ignored it every time. And no. Evolution and atheist have nothing to do with one another. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/285 "2012-05-31T16:16:24Z")
Since the topic here is idiotically incorrect and there will be no convincing GEEPERS that no one lost any rights and that only a wrong has been corrected… I’m not even going to get invested in this argument. I do find it amusing that an atheist, in some people’s viewpoint, cannot have a moral compass and must be vulgar. I think I lost some brain cells while reading this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/286 "2012-05-31T16:17:38Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Is studying evolution in school an endorsement of atheism ? > > Or rather, > > If the study of evolution is not an endorsement of atheism is banning the study of evolution an attack on atheists ? Mighty weak, and certainly off-topic. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/287 "2012-05-31T16:19:25Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by GEEPERS > It’s an attack on belief in a diety (which over 90% of Americans STILL believe in) and basic moral principles that students should abide by. Christianity is a belief in a diety, and therefore is part of the attack. I finally accepted a diety two years ago–so far I have lost 29 poundsies! ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/288 "2012-05-31T16:20:16Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Are you liberal as well? You must find the Bible greatly offensive as well since it promotes the same values. > > How can people choose to be Christians when the message must be hidden from public view? Did you see my post. I made the message public I only left out the salutation and amen. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/289 "2012-05-31T16:21:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That’s not a problem. It’s a feature. Public schools are, as the name implies, educational institutions. They’re not churches. You might as well complain that the problem with supermarkets is that they can’t put up Christian decorations because they might offend their heathen shoppers. Well, no shit. Not your problem obviously. Yes, they aren’t churches or mosques although at one time, all education was provided by those private institutions. Why complain about supermarkets ? Any supermarket can promote a religion if they wanted to. How about a kosher grocer . ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/290 "2012-05-31T16:26:22Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > OTOH, Christians don’t take pleasure in making fun of other people. That’s OUR moral compass. Do you REALLY want to have the discussion about what Christians “take pleasure” in doing to minority groups? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/291 "2012-05-31T16:27:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Mighty weak, and certainly off-topic. I disagree. You aren’t promoting atheism when you are teaching evolution in school, but you are going to offend a whole lot of atheists if you ban the teaching of evolution . Tell me you wouldn’t be offended if such was the case. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/292 "2012-05-31T16:29:32Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > I disagree. You aren’t promoting atheism when you are teaching evolution in school, but you are going to offend a whole lot of atheists if you ban the teaching of evolution . > > Tell me you wouldn’t be offended if such was the case. Take it to a new thread. As it is, this one is veering far off-topic. And to that end, **GEEPERS** , please try to stay on topic- you have a tendency to change the subject a lot, and when that’s done regularly it makes discussions less productive. ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/293 "2012-05-31T16:30:06Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > LOL prayer is a terrible tradition? Yes, let’s all subscribe to your godless way of thinking that offers zero hope for the hurting. Do tell, what does an atheist say to their sick friend dying of cancer? “sucks to be you, dude?” The thing you need to remember is that “atheists” are not a monolithic group. The are united in thought by nothing save their shared lack of belief in a God. Therefore asking what “an atheist” would do in this situation makes no sense. My hope, though, is that any person, believer or not, would say, “How can I help? What can I do to ease your suffering?” Whether it’s having a discussion, watching a movie together, offering to do the friend’s laundry or wash the dishes or make some meals, or, yes, pray if that’s what the hypothetical sick friend asks for, the best course of action in this case would be compassion. Compassion and religion are not equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/294 "2012-05-31T16:37:30Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > You are delusional. No true Christian is out there promoting hatred. The only examples you can dig up are the fringe extremists like Westboro. You have made blanket statements about others beliefs, while pointing out blanket statements about Christian beliefs. Your strawman rebuttals are nothing more then yelling fire in a movie theatre. And yet, you call someone else delusional. The Bible teaches us that we are not to throw stumbling blocks in front of our brothers. Do you think your strawman remarks, blanket statements, and calling people names gives anyone in this thread a notion of coming to Christ? Or do they see a hypocrite? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/295 "2012-05-31T16:39:15Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Is studying evolution in school an endorsement of atheism ? No, why would it be ? Evolution is not a religious theory, it’s a scientific one. Plenty of self-determined Christians have no beef with evolution. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/296 "2012-05-31T16:40:21Z")
I read through this thread, and I think I can summarise GEEPERS’ position: - there is only **one true religion** and it is Protestant Christianity - the US Constitution is all very well, but it’s far less important than the **traditions** of the **one true religion** - everybody knows that atheists meet regularly to plot the overthrow of the **one true religion** - the banner wasn’t about the **one true religion** and it was too - once you put **any limitations** on the **one true religion** , you are trying to kill God - only worshippers of the **one true religion** have rights ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/297 "2012-05-31T16:41:35Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Is studying evolution in school an endorsement of atheism ? > > Or rather, > > If the study of evolution is not an endorsement of atheism is banning the study of evolution an attack on atheists ? No, but banning the study of evolution is an attack on science, on education, and (if we’re talking about the USA) on the future competetiveness of American science and industry. ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/298 "2012-05-31T16:43:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **This ends immediately. Personal comments and insults about other users are not allowed in this forum: this is not a debate about the morality of an individual user, it’s about ideas.** Very well, then post #276 should be considered a violation. Of course, I noticed you continue to pick on me most of the time. I have no problem following the rules, but I don’t appreciate it when they are not applied to atheists. Post #287 is flaming. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/299 "2012-05-31T16:45:11Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Post #287 is flaming. I \*have \*been called a flamer before, but . . . ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/300 "2012-05-31T16:46:41Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > If the study of evolution is not an endorsement of atheism is banning the study of evolution an attack on atheists ?[/SIZE] No, it’s not. It would be an attack on science and reason, which absolutely belong in public schools. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555.md?page=16)