# Another Example of Atheists Destroying Christian's Rights **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 30, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555 "2012-05-30T16:52:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/701 "2012-06-06T19:40:41Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > You can belittle it all you want with your tongue Actually, I’m pretty sure he types with his fingers, not his tongue. If I’m wrong, I _really_ don’t want to use his keyboard. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/702 "2012-06-06T19:46:18Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Christianity is a reality, not a delusion. You can belittle it all you want with your tongue, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people’s lives have been transformed for the better through faith in Jesus Christ. The last time I did something with my tongue, SOMEONE certainly felt transformed. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/703 "2012-06-06T19:49:42Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Wouldn’t matter if it was or not. Physical location is meaningless. A law declaring an official religion is unconstitutional though. > But I’m sure you’ll eventually get your way and all Christian messages must be removed from public view. Freedom FROM religion is apparently more important, right? Can you give an example of “atheists” making a big deal over a similar sign on private property? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/704 "2012-06-06T19:50:20Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > The last time I did something with my tongue, SOMEONE certainly felt transformed. Oh, Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/705 "2012-06-06T19:54:20Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > I’ve already answered these type of questions in previous replies. Seriously, if all you people can do is regurgitate the same arguments then I’m done here. > > I would simply ignore the banner. No different than when I see a billboard promoting Ba’hai faith on the road. It’s a message. No one is forcing me to agree with it. Excellent. Then please send me $100, so that I can put some of these banners up. I will even put them up in places where you don’t have to look at them. You see, that’s one of the problems with putting them up in public buildings, paid for and maintained with public money. Then _I_ end up having to pay for the Christian message to be put up. But I’m not Christian. I don’t want to pay for your message, whether I am free to ignore it or not. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/706 "2012-06-06T19:54:52Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > What a load of crock. There is nothing in the Bible that advocates spreading the gospel through violence. Please show it, or admit your ignorance. I suppose you think the Salvation Army is a evil organization as well? Again with the Salvation Army. And again the simple reply is: not one thing the Salvation Army does is Christ-dependant. Nothing whatsoever. You could chuck all of the Bibles in all of the world, and people would still empathize with their fellow men. Because even \*monkeys \*do. > [@](#): > > Christianity is a reality, not a delusion. You can belittle it all you want with your tongue, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people’s lives have been transformed for the better through faith in Jesus Christ. People have been saved, renewed, and rescued from suicide and the brink of despair. People’s lives have been transformed for the better by My Little Pony. Placebos are nice and all, but… > [@](#): > > What can your non-belief, offer? NOTHING. You live, you consume, you die. In all likelihood, neither does your belief. But \*we \*have more fun in the sack along the way 😛 > [@](#): > > The hostile, rude, and lack of respect that I’ve received here from the beginning certainly does little to support your fabrication that Christians are the evil ones, and atheists are wonderful loving people. Mooom, when I shit on people, they shit right back at me ! It’s so unfaaaaiiir ! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/707 "2012-06-06T19:56:01Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > If you want to engage in a discussion on a discussion board, you should at least make an effort to answer people’s questions. If not, what’s the point? Witnessing. Playing the martyr. Irritating others. ---
**Author:** ![GEEPERS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c89c15/32.png) [@GEEPERS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GEEPERS)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/708 "2012-06-06T19:58:39Z")
Ok, it’s time to nip this in the bud. As usual with atheists, unless I graciously bow out, this thread will never end. ATheists must ALWAYS get the last word in. No point in continuing this discussion. No one is bring any new or convincing arguments to the table. Instead, quite a few have only strengthen my perceptions that atheists have a deep anger against Christianity. I also don’t appreciate the atheist mods putting me on a short lease while allowing many others to mock and flame me. I refuse to participate in a forum that caters to such biased unfair treatment. GEEPERS OUT. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/709 "2012-06-06T20:01:13Z")
God doesn’t exist! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/710 "2012-06-06T20:02:07Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Ok, it’s time to nip this in the bud. As usual with atheists, unless I graciously bow out, this thread will never end. ATheists must ALWAYS get the last word in. > > No point in continuing this discussion. No one is bring any new or convincing arguments to the table. Instead, quite a few have only strengthen my perceptions that atheists have a deep anger against Christianity. > > I also don’t appreciate the atheist mods putting me on a short lease while allowing many others to mock and flame me. I refuse to participate in a forum that caters to such biased unfair treatment. GEEPERS OUT. That’s just what Jesus said, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/711 "2012-06-06T20:02:30Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > ATheists must ALWAYS get the last word in. “Your insistence on asking me questions and correcting my mistakes and responding to my statements is un-Christian!” ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/712 "2012-06-06T20:03:11Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Oh, Jesus Christ. That’s what she said. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > GEEPERS OUT. See above. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/713 "2012-06-06T20:13:47Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > Christianity is a reality, not a delusion. You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren’t entitled to your own facts. Bye-bye, GEEPERS. You won’t be missed, and your witnessing just made everybody tired. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/714 "2012-06-06T20:13:53Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > What a load of crock. There is nothing in the Bible that advocates spreading the gospel through violence. Please show it, or admit your ignorance. Irrelevant. What matters is what Christians believe and what they do, not what’s written down in a book that until historically recently most couldn’t even read. A book that was written before they became powerful enough to indulge in such behavior much, anyway. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > I suppose you think the Salvation Army is a evil organization as well? It’s promoting Christianity, an evil thing in itself, and is homophobic. As for charity, you don’t need religion to be charitable; most religious “charity” is just propaganda meant to spread the religion anyway. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > Christianity is a reality, not a delusion. You can belittle it all you want with your tongue, but it doesn’t change the fact that many people’s lives have been transformed for the better through faith in Jesus Christ. People have been saved, renewed, and rescued from suicide and the brink of despair. What can your non-belief, offer? NOTHING. You live, you consume, you die. Christianity is baseless nonsense that has spent 2000 or so years spreading hatred and tyranny, bloodshed and bigotry, ignorance and madness, despair and suffering, genocide and slavery. It has worked to systematically crush all hope, all happiness out of the world; it is a grim, gray cult of guilt, despair, self hate and death worship. It is quite probably the single greatest force for evil in human history. Compared to that, “nothing” is far superior. And regardless of how often you insist it is true, Christianity is still nonsense. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > The hostile, rude, and lack of respect that I’ve received here from the beginning certainly does little to support your fabrication that Christians are the evil ones, and atheists are wonderful loving people. I’ve never claimed that atheists are loving people; atheists aren’t anything in particular. The advantage of atheism is the lack of the particular brand of madness and evil called religion. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > No point in continuing this discussion. No one is bring any new or convincing arguments to the table. Because religion is intellectually dead and never brings anything new to the table to argue against. And it isn’t “convincing” because your entire worldview denies the value of facts and logic. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > Instead, quite a few have only strengthen my perceptions that atheists have a deep anger against Christianity. Of course; years of being sneered and at harassed will do that. And Christianity deserves anger and hatred. > [@GEEPERS](#): > > I also don’t appreciate the atheist mods putting me on a short lease while allowing many others to mock and flame me. Except the mods aren’t all atheists, or even mostly atheists as far as I know. You just have a definition of “atheist” that amounts to “everyone who isn’t **GEEPERS** ”. > [@silenus](#): > > Bye-bye, GEEPERS. You won’t be missed, and your witnessing just made everybody tired. I wouldn’t bet on him/her not showing up again. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/715 "2012-06-06T20:18:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Bye-bye, GEEPERS. You won’t be missed, and your witnessing just made everybody tired. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I wouldn’t bet on him/her not showing up again. I went back and looked for it but got bored; I’m sure there’s a post from a couple months ago in which G threatened to bail because of unfair treatment. ---
**Author:** ![gunnergoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@gunnergoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gunnergoz)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/716 "2012-06-06T20:20:49Z")
I don’t dispute the right for someone to have a closed mind, as long as there are some worthwhile ideas, backed by facts, closed within it. What gets my goat is when the mind is simply filled to the brim with unsupported opinion, outdated dogma, fantastical thinking and an aversion to logic. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/717 "2012-06-06T20:21:54Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Oh, Jesus Christ. is that the second coming? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/718 "2012-06-06T20:27:23Z")
> [@simster](#): > > is that the second coming? Yeah, but unlike the Savior I don’t wait around a couplethree millenia before I’m ready. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/719 "2012-06-06T20:36:21Z")
> [@GEEPERS](#): > > No point in continuing this discussion. No one is bring any new or convincing arguments to the table. Instead, quite a few have only strengthen my perceptions that atheists have a deep anger against Christianity. Much of that anger is tied to years if not a lifetime of persecution and discrimination at the hands of Christians. I have had dozens of times where office discussions around me while I was fixing computers at that location have turned to religion. Examples: “I would have to find a way to get rid of someone that was not Christian” “I would never hire someone from outside my church” “How could anyone with a brain not believe in god” I was told to my face by a manager of a pizza place I was employed by that I was ineligible for promotion because “I was not Christian” in front of 4 witnesses. When interviewed by the district manager, the two witnesses who were regular churchgoers refused to make a statement or claimed they did not hear it even though they acknowledged it at the time it happened. The other two confirmed my story, manager was fired. Almost any out athiest has stories like this. You find yourself a low grade outcast in workplaces, people are suspicious of you, people avoid including you in group lunches, discussions stop when you enter a room. In workplaces I have rarely made any effort to conceal my lack of religion, with customers in my business, I avoid any such discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-example-of-atheists-destroying-christians-rights/623555/720 "2012-06-06T20:56:10Z")
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