Again, I am flooded with replies, and from the mod warnings, I must be more careful in my phraseology so there is no way I’m going to be able to answer everyone. That’s not my problem.
Your posting history doesn’t bear you out here because you’ve frequently called people liars and made unnecessary personal comments about them, and that’s not allowed in this forum. You can decide how you post and when; the moderators will decide what is against the rules. If you think someone else is breaking the rules, report the post with the Report feature. If you are talking about Eve’s post, it is not a flame at all. It’s a joke about a spelling error.
A lot of those replies are people asking you similar questions, though, so you could easily address several of them at once. I thought you did answer the question Really Not All That Bright is asking, but if not, please do it now. [I think I quoted the post where you did.]
You don’t have to give 30 individual answers to that question-just answer it once, and we’ll share it.
I think he did answer it here:
Sorry, didn’t see Marley’s mod note on this topic.
Evolution for some, tiny American flags for others.
And once again, read the decision about the case and learn what ACTUALLY happened.
This was never an attack on the moral principles. The school committee was given the choice to keep the moral principles without the religious context and they refused. in fact, one of the reasons given why the judge rejected their arguments was because they purposefully couched their arguments in a religious context.
Based on the constitution and supreme court precedence, the judge really had no choice but to decide that the banner had to come down.
Fair enough. Now, let’s try this one from page 1:
I disagree. You aren’t promoting atheism when you are teaching evolution in school, but you are going to offend a whole lot of atheists if you ban the teaching of evolution .
Tell me you wouldn’t be offended if such was the case.
I wouldn’t be offended as an atheist - I would be offended as a critical thinker, wanting accuracy and lack of bias in education.
God is the ‘end of the discussion’ - "god did it, don’t ask questions’ - kills educational and discovery opportunities.
(posted before seeing mod note - apologies)
I finally accepted a diety two years ago–so far I have lost 29 poundsies!
Wow, I bet you’re the athiest girl around!
Wow, I bet you’re the athiest girl around!
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Pffft, girl, guy or (satanic) feline, I’m obviously the athiest of all.
Why, last year, I oppressed 7 True Christians, mocked, scoffed, blasphemed and used foul language. Also I totally hate God more than you, and I’ve earned enough pretending-I-don’t-believe-in-God points that I can afford a set of patio furniture.
Beat that, punks.
Pffft, girl, guy or (satanic) feline, I’m obviously the athiest of all.
Why, last year, I oppressed 7 True Christians, mocked, scoffed, blasphemed and used foul language. Also I totally hate God more than you, and I’ve earned enough pretending-I-don’t-believe-in-God points that I can afford a set of patio furniture.Beat that, punks.
Told God to his face that he doesn’t exist, and was so convincing that He is starting to doubt.
I understand that schools reserve the right to deny students the ability to wear clothing that could possibly upset school activities and or other students. As a hypothetical, would the school run afoul of the first amendment if the students wore t-shirts emblazoned with the original sentiments of the banner openly?
It would appear at first glance it would be legal, as the school would not be endorsing the t-shirt’s sentiments, but the students wearing them would be.
Told God to his face that he doesn’t exist, and was so convincing that He is starting to doubt.
Shot a god in Reno, just to watch him die.
It would appear at first glance it would be legal, as the school would not be endorsing the t-shirt’s sentiments, but the students wearing them would be.
Most likely, it’d be legal. If there was serious disruption that occurred as theists and atheists were fighting, the school might institute a no-messages-on-tshirts policy or, simpler, just a dress code. IIRC a few policies about acceptable clothing have drawn legal challenges for or against, but a school dress code should be on fairly safe ground.
As a hypothetical, would the school run afoul of the first amendment if the students wore t-shirts emblazoned with the original sentiments of the banner openly?
No. Not if it’s something the students do on their own.
No. Not if it’s something the students do on their own.
And students doing it on their own does not preclude support from their church group or parents, but definitely rules out the school board providing the shirts.
Would it preclude teachers and admins hinting strongly about the possibility to the students?
I understand that schools reserve the right to deny students the ability to wear clothing that could possibly upset school activities and or other students. As a hypothetical, would the school run afoul of the first amendment if the students wore t-shirts emblazoned with the original sentiments of the banner openly?
It would appear at first glance it would be legal, as the school would not be endorsing the t-shirt’s sentiments, but the students wearing them would be.
No, and in fact, that’s exactly what some students did!
Wouldn’t Tinker apply here? The reason I ask is because every time this subject comes up, nobody ever mentions it.