Do tell, if your appendix suddenly burst, and there was only one other person around, which would you rather it be: an atheist who will take you to a hospital, or a Christian who will pray for you?
You’re being ridiculous. Any moral creed that includes “our heavenly Father” can be taught without religious references. In an increasingly diverse society we need to find a common language of universal principles.
Nobody is preventing students from practicing thier religion
I think any individual should be able to express thier personal beliefs in public as long as they are willing to accept the consequences.
Probably the exact same thing we should be saying in the same situation; “I’m here if you need anything.” Then do things to make it easier. Faith without works is dead, being alone.
GEEPERS firmly believes in “divine healing”, actually.
WWJD?
“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.”
Problem is who are you to say that your idea of morality is any more right than the next person? Maybe another atheist believes that man’s motivation in life should be to obtain as much pleasure as possible. We all end up as worm food in the end anyways.
You are delusional. No true Christian is out there promoting hatred. The only examples you can dig up are the fringe extremists like Westboro.
You have no proof that these people are Christians. Are they showing fruits of the spirit? Hate, anger, violence are fruits of the devil. Besides, anyone can claim to be a Christian. There are pastors out there like Michael Bernard Beckwith who combine new age teachings and many paths to God way of thinking. This certainly doesn’t align with the Bible’s teachings. Another false Christ.
A Christian brother or sister would both pray for me and take me to the hospital. Unfortunately atheists can only put their faith in modern medicine which frequently fails the patient.
Ha ha!
Mere logic cannot penetrate his shields. He will not even see this comment, let alone deign to answer it.
Leave the moral code to the parents, churches and Sunday school. And just because Big Happy Sky Daddy is not mentioned in school does not mean that an Evil Atheistic Ideology is being taught in its place.
And why do you feel it is ok for my taxes to go to support primitive superstitions of an ancient, ignorant people that has no relevance to modern life?
At the very least, prayer relaxes and decreases anxiety. That fact alone proves you wrong.
GEEPERS,
I did not see anyone state that prayer is a terrible tradition, if it makes you feel good to pray then by all means do it. You are making all kinds of negative judgements against people that do not agree with you on this issue.
You do not exclusively know what might offer hope to the hurting. I have seen many a Christian be unhappy about some horrible thing, and not find any more comfort or hope from their faith then say people of other faiths do.
Atheists are fellow human beings, and show compassion, and care about their friends who are suffering. Why not get to know some Atheists before you imagine what they might say to a friend sick with cancer. You have a one dimensional idea about Atheists, that is probably based on not knowing any, and judging them harshly out of ignorance.
Yet they claim to be Christian, they identify with a Christian church or denomination and they claim to speak Christian beliefs. What are we supposed to think? Their words influence hundreds of thousands more.
How do we know you’re Christian? This girl has been threatened with violence by self-proclaimed Christians yet you’ve been silent. These people represent your religion yet you fail to distance yourself from their hatred.
Since he does it again later, apparently not.
If you truly believe that no one can have a moral compass without Christianity/religion, I’m not sure what else we can say.
Didn’t Jesus say something about not being a boisterous asshole about religion?
Until you’re told your sickness or anxiety is from Satan and it’s your fault or a punishment.
You are the least relaxed, and the most anxious person in this thread.
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Do you think medicine or prayer is more likely to heal someone?
No it doesn’t. It’s better to solve the problem that is making you anxious than is to pray to an imaginary god and not solve the problem.
All sorts of standards; it’s more logical, it’s more based on reality, it has better results, and so on. There are many better standards than “my Bronze Age demon-god says so”.
Mainstream Christianity is about hatred; just look at the anti-same sex marriage initiatives that have passed.
And given the history of Christianity, I’d say that no true Christian would show mercy, compassion or tolerance; any Christian who tries to act decently is trying to twist a fundamentally evil religion into something good. And it doesn’t work very well; Christianity is a religion optimized for brutality, aggression and ruthlessness; not kindness and tolerance. Christianity got to its present position by its followers being willing to wade through blood to the hips, not because it’s nice.
Anyone who claims to be Christian is a Christian. There’s no standard. And history demonstrates that hatred and brutality are exactly what is to be expected from the kinds of Christians who want to shove their religion is everyone’s face like this.
Well, you certainly seem to think you are somebody who can say that, what with asserting that atheists can’t have any morality at all and Christianity being better.
I hope that they at the very least wear kilts.
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Well, he did, in no uncertain terms and without any ambiguity ; but when he did what he *really *meant was… 