# Another fucking school shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668 "2008-02-14T22:45:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/141 "2008-02-18T21:46:08Z")
[QUOTE=Kozmik] The shooter [had a girlfriend](http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/02/18/National/Shooter.Called.Girlfriend.Before.Killing.7.Students-3216269.shtml). :rolleyes: ☹ [/QUOTE] I was rather surprised to learn that. According to another article I saw, he was a graduate student at UI Champaign-Urbana, as she was. She did mention some emotional issues, but in general he seemed very far from the expected usual pattern of a downtrodden loner. Maybe there were some academic issues, though that more often leads to suicide. ---
**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/142 "2008-02-18T22:19:19Z")
[The Phelps Clan](http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html) is in this now too. They’re on the schedule, I wonder if they’ll actually show. ---
**Author:** ![JR\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JR\_Brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JR_Brown)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/143 "2008-02-18T23:47:29Z")
[QUOTE=buttonjockey308] Right here in our own backyard (or front yard, depending on where you are) is [This Data.](http://www2.lib.uchicago.edu/~llou/guns.html) The gents’ name is John Lott. Do with it what you will. [/QUOTE] It should be noted that the Lott/Mustard studies are highly contentious, with many vocal “debunkers” claiming their methods are flawed and equally vocal “debunkers of the debunkers” claiming the critics’ methods are flawed. The former tend to be over-represented in peer-reviewed academic journals, whereas the latter tend to be over-represented on gun-advocacy websites (go figure). I’d link to the peer-reviewed papers, except most of them are not free access anyway and I’m too lazy to sort out the ones that are. The not-peer-reviewed stuff on both sides is pretty easy to find by Googling but should be taken with a couple of spoonfuls of salt. JRB ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/144 "2008-02-19T00:24:32Z")
[QUOTE=Mr Bus Guy] [The Phelps Clan](http://www.godhatesfags.com/schedule.html) is in this now too. They’re on the schedule, I wonder if they’ll actually show. [/QUOTE] Obviously, they’re well informed: > [@F'in Idiots](#): > > This is for the funeral of Ryanne Mace. He was one of those who were killed by the shooter of Northern Illinois University. :rolleyes: It’s also good to know that anymore, you don’t even have to _do_ anything to have your funeral picketed. Yeah, those evil college kids … going to class … and …learning. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/145 "2008-02-21T04:41:18Z")
[Every Young Male shooter that has gone on a killing spree in the United States also has a history of treatment of psychotropic drugs. Typically SSRI antidepressants.](http://www.naturalnews.com/022656.html). These meds have serious side effects, it is not a case of organic random detriments. These people were envirulated by the serious short term and long term side-effects of this dangerous class of drugs. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668/146 "2008-02-21T09:56:28Z")
Darn enturbulation of organic random detriments! Assertation used as topic statement in a biased article, without backup. Citation requested that George Jo Hennard was on psychotropic drugs. Marc Lépine, please. Jeffrey Weise, please. Joseph Wesbecker was on Prozac, but he was not young, and thus, does not count according to the article. Colin Ferguson? Kyle Aaron Huff? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-fucking-school-shooting/437668.md?page=7)