# Another Holodeck question: Is sex prohibited?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 1, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774 "2012-06-01T14:27:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/21 "2012-06-01T16:43:47Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Nah, they get fed into the food replicator matter tanks. Along with the rest of the organic waste. 😉

“Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.  
Hmmm… I see Commander Riker has been eating his asparagus again.”

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/22 "2012-06-01T16:45:26Z")

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I predict that the holodeck will be the last thing ever invented by the human race.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/23 "2012-06-01T16:52:53Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> I predict that the holodeck will be the last thing ever invented by the human race.

Second to last. We’ll still need that super-holodeck-mop.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/24 "2012-06-01T16:59:53Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> I predict that the holodeck will be the last thing ever invented by the human race.

I believe that’s true but for a different reason. The first thing all the inventors will do is use it for extremely realistic games. Then, since all the inventors will be jacked in 24/7, the rest of us won’t ever get our holopron ☹

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/25 "2012-06-01T17:13:05Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> In “The Perfect Mate” (IIRC) after Kamala flirts with Riker he stalks off saying “Riker to bridge: if you need me, I’ll be in holodeck 4.” I think there’s a fairly obvious implication that he’s not going there to solve a murder mystery in period costume.

I’m going to appropriate this instead of “If you need me, I’ll be in my bunk.” 😃

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/26 "2012-06-01T17:15:54Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> Alien Race: “What business do you have in our space!? We will destroy you!!!”  
> Troi: "I sense… anger… "

No shit. I always referred to her as Commander Useless.

Troi: “I’m sensing fear among the crew.”

Data: “We’re under attack from 600 Borg ships. Ya THINK, bitch?!?”

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/27 "2012-06-01T17:30:48Z")

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Did they not use the Holodeck to get around Vulcan pon farr in Voyager?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/28 "2012-06-01T17:31:06Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> No shit. I always referred to her as Commander Useless.
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> Troi: “I’m sensing fear among the crew.”
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> Data: “We’re under attack from 600 Borg ships. Ya THINK, bitch?!?”

I object to this base attack. Commander Data would never use contractions! It should be: “You think, bitch?!?”

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/29 "2012-06-01T17:36:59Z")

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> [@pancakes3](#):
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> HALF betazoid who gets most of her “senses” from facial cues.
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> She seriously comes off as a full blown charlatan in some of the earlier episodes.
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> Alien Race: “What business do you have in our space!? We will destroy you!!!”  
> Troi: "I sense… anger… "

OTH a persons apparent expression may not be what he is actually feeling, the guy could be bluffing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/30 "2012-06-01T17:43:54Z")

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(Chris Moneymaker stares out from the viewscreen)

_ **Troi:** “Captain, I’m sensing…a pair of treys with an ace kicker.”_

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**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/31 "2012-06-01T18:57:27Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Nah, they get fed into the food replicator matter tanks. Along with the rest of the organic waste. 😉

Another case where you really don’t want to see where the sausage is made.

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/32 "2012-06-01T19:27:33Z")

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All I have to add is a second-hand story:

Wil Wheaton claims that from time to time, Jonathan Frakes still will get a far-off look in his eyes and whisper the name “Minuet.”

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/33 "2012-06-01T19:52:16Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Did they not use the Holodeck to get around Vulcan pon farr in Voyager?

Yes they [did](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Body_and_Soul_%28episode%29). Probably the only direct confirmation in canon of people using starship holodecks for knocking boots.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/34 "2012-06-01T20:04:38Z")

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Didn’t Voyager have a plotline where Tuvok had to cyberbone a holodeck version of his wife to deal with ponfar?

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/35 "2012-06-01T20:08:05Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Maybe I’m just an old perv, but if I had access to Holodeck technology, you know damn well I’d be getting myself some Victoria’s Secret supermodel action, or my latest celebrity crush, or even real people I knew who were inaccessible for whatever reason. Don’t tell me you haven’t thought about it too.
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> … It’s relatively harmless, after all – it would just be elaborate masturbation, really, and there are probably no regulations against _that_.

One of the episodes of TNG has Geordi down in the holodeck with an elaborate engineering setup of the test facility for Enterprise’s shakedown, including a simulation of the lady engineer. He then falls for her, and eventually “breaks up” with her. Some episodes later, the actual lady shows up on board, wanders down to the holodeck, and finds his program. She then proceeds to feel all squicked out about Geordi having holodeck fantasies about her.

I would imagine creating holodeck versions of crewmembers for fantasy purposes is frowned upon because it fosters an artificial sense of familiarity that can bleed over into real life situations. Imagine how bad stalkers would be if they could build elaborate holofantasies that play to their desire. Either they’d be satisfied enough to never bother a soul, or they’d just get more worked up and confused for the “real thing”.

> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> I predict that the holodeck will be the last thing ever invented by the human race.

Dilbert creator Scott Adams already predicted that.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/36 "2012-06-01T20:12:56Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I picture some sort of self-cleaning cycle, like those pay toilets in Paris. Or they could just beam any residual fluids out to space or something…

That’s where the term “space seed” came from.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/37 "2012-06-01T20:23:19Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> One of the episodes of TNG has Geordi down in the holodeck with an elaborate engineering setup of the test facility for Enterprise’s shakedown, including a simulation of the lady engineer. He then falls for her, and eventually “breaks up” with her. Some episodes later, the actual lady shows up on board, wanders down to the holodeck, and finds his program. She then proceeds to feel all squicked out about Geordi having holodeck fantasies about her.

Yes, and what a weird story that was. TV being TV, of course, they wound up having to work in close quarters to solve the problem of the week. You wound up feeling uncomfortable for her and bad for Geordi.  
[FUTURAMA]

Don’t date Holograms!

[/FUTURAMA]

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/38 "2012-06-01T20:25:23Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> By pretty much the same reasoning, there’s no lock on the communicator system or turbo-lifts. Anybody who asks can find out where anybody is, then take a turbo-lift to see them, even if they’re on the bridge, and you’re not in Star Fleet. Everything is on the honor system.

Wasn’t there an episode where Data was on duty on the late shift when someone asked him how things were going, and he consulted the computer and said something like “150 crew on duty, four in Sickbay, 525 asleep, 47 off-duty in Ten-Forward, and 493 off-duty but awake, including 34 engaged in sexual relations.”

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/39 "2012-06-01T20:31:53Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> One of the problems of Starfleet doors: there’s no knob, so you can’t hang a sock on the doorknob to tell the rest of the crew to stay out.

Ahh, the real reason socks are sold in pairs? :eek:

😃  
CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/40 "2012-06-01T20:47:37Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Dilbert creator Scott Adams already predicted that.

[Damn, he sure did](http://www.camillereads.com/2011/03/holodeck-societys-last-invention.html). In that case, I agree with Scott Adams that the holodeck will be the last thing invented by humans.

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