# Another Holodeck question: Is sex prohibited? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 1, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774 "2012-06-01T14:27:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/61 "2012-06-03T18:26:42Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > IIRC the Doctor actually advised Janeway to have a sex with her holo-lover as a form of stress relief (since any relationship with a crewmember was out of the question). In the “alternate timeline” version of the series’ finale, the good Doctor himself had taken a biological Earth babe as his wedded wife. How, I wonder, would they have handled the offspring issue, assuming that they wanted children? Can holo-emitters manufacture viable sperm? Or would the Doctor and his wife have just created their own holographic children, and programmed the computer to “age” them naturally? You gotta admit, that’d be a good plot line for any work of SF. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/62 "2012-06-03T20:09:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Spinoff movie _River of Souls_. Really terrible unless Tracy Scoggins in a bustier is your thing. Didn’t the owner say the Scoggins hologram was especially popular with his female customers? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/63 "2013-10-27T02:39:31Z")
Something that hasn’t been brought up yet is two real people having sex in the holodeck, as Worf and K’Ehelyr did in TNG season 2. (And apparently Alexander was conceived on this occasion). ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/64 "2013-10-27T03:34:59Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Something that hasn’t been brought up yet is two real people having sex in the holodeck, as Worf and K’Ehelyr did in TNG season 2. (And apparently Alexander was conceived on this occasion). I’m pretty sure Alexander was conceived during an earlier tryst — several years earlier, in fact. Worf fathered Alexander on K’Ehelyr when they had a previous relationship; she simply never told him about it. Alexander is too old when we first meet him to have been conceived in Season 2. (I’m pretty sure each season is supposed to represent 1 year.) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/65 "2013-10-27T04:16:25Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Hello? Betazoid on board? She can detect psychic distress from orbit, when it’s appropriate to the plot, so I don’t think a pedophile would last long. One could not hide also if you were into S&M 🙂 Deanna Troi reads more than is needed from Captain Picard's mind in an animated Family Guy scene. (Very suggestive language) ---
**Author:** ![Qwisp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qwisp/32/397_2.png) [@Qwisp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwisp)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/66 "2013-10-27T04:25:08Z")
There you are a lowly private having sex in an ordinary room in an ordinary city. Naked and spread eagle about to finish up,when Comander Riker walks in and says “End Program!” You end up on a cold black gridded floor in a surprising small area where anyone in the Holosuite can see you in all your naked flag saluting glory. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/67 "2013-10-27T04:26:49Z")
> [@Moldy Bread](#): > > The captain of the station was inclined to live and let live, until she saw an image of herself, dressed in a sexy teddy, that one customer was asking for. “Actually, it was mainly women.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/68 "2013-10-27T08:41:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’m pretty sure Alexander was conceived during an earlier tryst — several years earlier, in fact. Worf fathered Alexander on K’Ehelyr when they had a previous relationship; she simply never told him about it. Alexander is too old when we first meet him to have been conceived in Season 2. (I’m pretty sure each season is supposed to represent 1 year.) Well, maybe. But he seems to grow up awfully fast; by DS9 season 5 or so he’s old enough to join the Klingon Defense Force. ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/69 "2013-10-27T10:03:14Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > “Tea. Earl Grey. Hot. > Hmmm… I see Commander Riker has been eating his asparagus again.” Is that a new euphemism? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/70 "2013-10-27T11:45:48Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > (Chris Moneymaker stares out from the viewscreen) > > _ **Troi:** “Captain, I’m sensing…a pair of treys with an ace kicker.”_ I always thought the fact that Troi was allowed to play poker with Riker et al proved that she was full of shit, empathy wise—and everyone knew it and just humored her in the hopes of getting into her pants. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/71 "2013-10-27T12:06:41Z")
You mean into her unitard. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/72 "2013-10-27T17:57:16Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > what if you program the sick stuff? the illegal stuff? kiddie porn and snuff films? > [@Ethilrist](#): > > Hello? Betazoid on board? She can detect psychic distress from orbit, when it’s appropriate to the plot, so I don’t think a pedophile would last long. Besides, it’s TNG, remember, we have fixed all that’s mean, nasty and ugly about humanity (Yeah, Gene, :rolleyes:, whatever you say…) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/73 "2013-10-28T03:25:55Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Well, maybe. But he seems to grow up awfully fast; by DS9 season 5 or so he’s old enough to join the Klingon Defense Force. Aaaaaand after some actual research, it turns out that your original statement was correct. According to the Memory Alpha Star Trek Wiki: “_Alexander was conceived during a brief encounter between Worf and K’Ehleyr when the ambassador came aboard the USS Enterprise-D in an effort to defuse a potential crisis presented by the return of a Klingon D7 class battle cruiser IKS T’Ong that had been dispatched decades before as a sleeper ship. (TNG: “The Emissary”) After the crisis was successfully resolved, K’Ehleyr departed the Enterprise. She concealed her pregnancy and the birth of Alexander from Worf, finally revealing approximately one year later…_” So yeah, it would appear that Klingons must mature much more quickly than humans. Alexander _appeared_ to be around 7-8 years old when we first saw him (which is why I assumed his birth occurred before ST:TNG’s first season), but if he was born on the date given, he was actually only 2-3 years old, but evidently old enough to attend school with older human children. ETA: Oh, link to the full article: [Alexander Rozhenko | Memory Alpha | Fandom](http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alexander%2C_son_of_Worf) ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/74 "2013-10-28T04:39:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The documentary “Trekkies” ends with clips of Star Trek-themed comedy routines. One of them imagines Picard looking for the fourteen-year-old Wesley, only to find him locked in a holodeck. When Picard suggests that Wesley needs to see Counselor Troi (presumably about his raging hormones, Wesley’s reply suggests that he’s having sex with a virtual Troi. Which is odd, since, if not involved in a committed relationship with Riker or Work, Troi would have probably done him. I got the impression in a couple of eps that she was kinda an interplanetary sex ambassador. I read a TNG novel - Imzadi, in which Barclay’s main holodeck offense is feeding his sexual obsession with Troi. Tho in latter seasons, Beverly Crusher became far yummier. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774/75 "2013-10-28T12:22:44Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > IIRC the Doctor actually advised Janeway to have a sex with her holo-lover as a form of stress relief (since any relationship with a crewmember was out of the question). Thanks to SFDebris, I can finally speak episode titles like the real Trekkies! That’s in “Fair Haven”, specifically when she was talking about having feelings for said holo-lover. Note, however, that the Doctor also said that the lover was just as real a person as he was. (They seem to have forgotten in that episode that the holodeck doesn’t create sentient characters as a matter of course.) So he’s not recommending him as a sex toy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-holodeck-question-is-sex-prohibited/623774.md?page=3)